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I wanna hold your hand!




This Rock
Volume 6, Number 2
  February  1995  

 Up Front
By Karl Keating
 Letters
 HOW MY PARISH FOUGHT OFF AN INVASION
By EDWARD C. PETTY
 Sidebar
How To Bring in a Large Harvest
 "EVANGELICALS AND CATHOLICS TOGETHER": A YEAR LATER
By RAY RYLAND
 ATHEISM'S GODS
By BOBBY JINDAL
 OPEN LETTER TO THE MANLY SEMINARY STAFF
By BRIAN W. HARRISON, O.S.
 WHO ARE THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?
By CANON FRANCIS J. RIPLEY
 Classic Apologetics
Evolution, empty tomb, apologetics
By Arnold Lunn
 Old Testament Guide
Judith and Esther
By Antonio Fuentes
 Fathers Know Best
Astrology

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IN your October 1994 issue you published a most thought provoking letter. It says that holding hands during the Lord's Prayer at Mass is a Wicca invention of the evil feminist movement. Bunk. If you really want to know who started the custom of holding hands during the Lord's Prayer, I'll tell you. It was me.

In the mid 1970s, when we had a pile of kids and sat in the first row so they could see, my wife and I went on a Marriage Encounter weekend. At the Lord's Prayer in the concluding Mass the celebrant asked us to hold hands with our spouse and really pray as one. I liked that.

The next Sunday, we told the kids we would hold hands during the Lord's Prayer, and why. We are praying "Our Father . . . give us this day ... forgive us our sins." No singular, first-person pronouns. This is a community prayer.

We continued and others joined us. (We also found it a great antidote to the small people wiggles.) Before long many, if not most, of the parishioners in Our Lady Star of the Sea Church in Bremerton, Washington held each others' hands during the Lord's Prayer. As to the feminists and the Wicca, forget it. Not here. One special Saturday morning speaker for a Women's Program came and sang one song about "mother earth." There was a firestorm of protest, and that hasn't happened again.

Then we moved. We found ourselves at Christmas in 1978 in St. Sebastian's Parish in Frankfurt, Germany. The kids still needed to see, and they still wiggled. So we sat in front, on the Gospel side. (Remember the Gospel side and the epistle side?) For the Lord's Prayer we held hands. After Mass a number of our new parishioners asked us about it. They were members of Marriage Encounter, Charismatic Renewal, or Cursillo. They liked to hold hands in prayer.

Eventually we found a permanent home in a three-cow village in the country. Wiesbaden Air Base was closer to us, so we joined that parish. Same song, second verse. A lot of them started holding hands.

Finally, when weather got bad we went to the Catholic churches in the two local villages. There we joined hands, as usual. Again we were questioned. We said simply that the Lord's Prayer is our prayer, together we approach the Father. We noticed that the usual congregation consisted of mature women who brought their children (under confirmation age), old women and older men--even some of them began to hold hands.

As we traveled in an old VW bus around Europe on vacation for the next five years, we observed the hand holding at the Lord's Prayer in such diverse places as Jerusalem, Rome, a country church in France, Lourdes, all the way north to Norway. In November 1993 we were in the Franciscan church in Budapest. Everybody was holding hands at the Our Father. And these people never heard of Wicca!

I started by saying I started it. I was kidding. I maybe helped a little. But when something that brings God's people closer to him springs up, literally all over the world, like the rosary did, and the brown scapular did, and the hand-holding did--things that help us on our way to God--there is only one conclusion. God did it.

To those who don't like holding hands with family or strangers while they talk to God, I say, for goodness' sake, don't do it. It is only a matter of style. It is not dogma.

If I may, I'd like to take issue with one other statement good old Name Withheld By Request made. He or she wrote, "[W]hen we join hands, and some are in the state of grace and some are not, then are we presenting the Mystical Body of Christ to the Father? God cannot be present where sin is."

As to whether we are presenting the Mystical Body of Christ to the Father, I really don't know. Maybe. Would that be so terrible? What I see when I look around our church at the Lord's Prayer are innocent little kids, lost teenagers, a couple of bums who sleep on the church pews (it is open around the clock), harried moms and dads, old grandmothers praying for their apostate chil dren, old guys who have been praying that prayer for 80 years, couples who are married out of the Church and still keep coming to Mass every Sunday, college kids who know right from wrong and are fighting to stay straight in a world full of moral piranhas, and a young, good, tireless priest.

I see Caucasians, some blacks, Guatemalans, Mexicans, Vene-zualians, Peruvian Indians, Hawaiians, Puerto Ricans, Filipinos, Native Americans, Japanese, Taiwanese, Hong Kongites, Chinese, lots of Navy people, a few from Army and Marines. Many of them hold hands. Some don't.

What I really see is a family reunion of God's kids, coming together to hear, not so much about how good we are, or how much we love him, but rather how precious we are in his eyes and how much he loves us.

Can God be present where there is sin? Of course he can. He was present to the Evil One. He was present to Augustine when he prayed, "Lord give me chastity, but not yet." More important, God is present to me when I am in sin and try to hide from him.

William D. Zimsen
Bremerton, Washington



Hank and Ron on RC's


THANKS for your article "Bible Answer Man and Hell" [January 1995]. When I listen to this program, occasionally a well informed Catholic caller will successfully challenge the Hank-and-Ron anti-Catholic tag team, but not often. Too often a caller will identify himself as "I was raised a Catholic, but I really didn't come to know Jesus until last week when I heard your program on the radio." Then the conversation proceeds to compliment the caller for leaving the Catholic Church.

I talked to my parish priest about this anti-Catholic attitude because in our area many of our small valley's churches are dialoguing in an ecumenical way, not in a divisive way. The focus is to celebrate the areas that are similar rather than to focus on the differences. The Bible Answer Man (BAM) program really damages the efforts that many people are putting into the reconciliation process. Many Protestants are coming to Mass, some daily, and really enjoying the celebration. Many are also converting.

The priest told me that the attitudes expressed by this program aren't mainline Protestant positions. That may be true in our area, where our parish alone has more people in it than all the other denominations put together. It may also be true that the local Protestant pastors are more ecumenically minded. But when the BAM program is aired over thousands of radio stations across the U.S. and Canada, and I hear the callers' questions and the resulting answers, I don't feel any charity or ecumenism coming from it, only division.

Maybe this divisive nature is the root of Protestantism being 25,000-plus divisions, constantly dividing and starting over again. One Catholic caller tried to defend papal infallibility and was immediately reminded of Pope Honorius. The caller tried to explain, but Hank laughed, saying the caller's nose was growing like Pinocchio. So much for their policy of treating all fellow human beings with charity.

Hank Hanegraaff, president of the Christian Research Institute and the BAM, is no pushover. He debates fiercely. He is infinitely patient with a Protestant caller--not so with Catholics, particularly skin-deep Catholics. His venom toward the Church is of Niagara proportions at times. What is really interesting, he quotes Aquinas and Augustine copiously as great Church leaders. How Hank and Ron Rhodes can quote these two Catholic Church Fathers and hold to their own anti-Catholic positions is beyond me. What is the chance of Catholic Answers debating these people?

Steve Barry
Santa Rosa, California

Editor's reply: About zero, since in the past the Christian Research Institute declined offers to debate.




The cultic Church of Christ


IN the past six years This Rock magazine has truly been a life saver to me. It is heartening to see such a profoundly needed ministry working within and without the Catholic Church. My first experience with your magazine occurred as a result of returning to Christ, not within the Catholic Church, but through a strong "Bible church" mainly operating on local college campuses.

This Rock, in fact, published an article about the group--known as the "[Boston] Church of Christ." Indeed, as I later discovered, they turned out to be quite a dangerous cult. As I ran into problems with some of their teachings and methods, I began to feel a pressure and manipulation my heart felt could not be of Christ.

The more I presented questions and arguments, the more they pressured and accused me of falling away and being blinded by Satan. This occurred only after I was in too far. If any of their efforts were met with questioning or debate, their pretense of brotherly love would quickly vanish. Any vulnerability in an individual (typical of many college-age persons) would be attacked with unrelenting "guilt trips."

My father, a man devoted to the Catholic faith, was becoming more and more alarmed as he began to see my life become torn apart by the manipulation that I was going through. Our discussions were helpful, but he wasn't able to convince me that the Church of Christ was wrong in many areas of Christian doctrine. Then one miraculous day it happened, as I was relating to my father what were many of their teachings, both in ecclesiastical history and in Christian doctrine, he was able to point out some blatant errors. In addition, a friend of his had given him a copy of This Rock that explained Matthew 16:15-20. This would be the beginning that would catapult my father and me into a study of the true Christian history that would inevitably arm me with the strength and knowledge to pull away from the Church of Christ.

It makes perfect sense where Jesus says, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. . . . And I say to you that you are Kepha, and upon this Kepha I will build my church." The Lord must have intended for there to be one Church and one teaching authority. Or else there would be exactly what we have today--thousands of different "Christian" sects saying thousands of different things about the true teachings of Christ. Logically, this is totally impossible. There cannot be one truth, one Holy Spirit, saying thousands of different things about salvation. That is why Jesus knew exactly what he was doing when he "built the Church upon the foundation of the apostles" (Eph. 2:20)--namely Peter (to whom Jesus specifically gave the "keys to the kingdom").

The Church would always have had to hand down through the generations a leadership to protect the integrity of gospel. The mechanism would be known as "apostolic Tradition." The fact that the Catholic Church has lasted two thousand years (despite corruptions) is a testament to the truth that it is, indeed, the Church that Christ built and gave sole authority not only to interpret Scripture, but to put the whole Bible together in the first place.

In the years that followed my experience within the Fundamentalist cult, I have heard all the arguments against this truth. Not one of them can stand up when you study the history of Christ's true Church, the Catholic Church. Whether it be about papal authority or Marian theology, both can be supported by Scripture. Our Fundamentalist brothers and sisters must realize that scriptural basis for doctrine is not the sole authority for doctrine. Historically, we must remember that the Church existed almost 400 years without the Bible as we know it today. It took centuries for our Church Fathers to canonize the Holy Scriptures into what we know as the Bible (which is authoritative).

Nowhere in the Bible does it state that the Bible is the sole container of the entire C hristian faith. (The premise of sola scriptura is actually unscriptural.) It does state that "scripture is profitable for teaching and for doctrine." Indeed it is! That's precisely why our Church Fathers canonized (declared to be the holy, inspired Word of God) the Scriptures into the Holy Bible. It serves as a protection, a basis of our beliefs. But not the sole authority (which is the Church that made the Bible).

Matt MacKay
Hayward, California



Relativism irrelevant


READING the letters from Thomas M. Walton in September's issue and Doug Menietti in November's, I feel a need to comment. Mr. Walton uses the biblical command of love of God and neighbor to back up his assertion that an act's effects and morality are the same. Mr. Menietti insists that this view is moral relativism. Neither brings up the reason why God makes moral prohibitions of actions in the first place.

God only prohibits actions to protect us. Mr. Walton and Mr. Menietti both miss on an important point, namely that since God prohibits actions only to protect his people, it is impossible to find a case where an action's general acceptance benefits society and is yet morally wrong. The search for an action God prohibits but which benefits society, and the search for an action which God permits but which harms society, are as vain as the search for a time when Christ broke the Father's command.

Thomas L. Weber
St. Cloud, Minnesota



Been there, done that


A FEW words on your December issue, that is the rock being Peter specifically. Protestants say that the rock is Peter's testimony, and Catholics say the rock is Peter. If Scripture interprets itself, then I have a third alternative.

This alternative backs the Church's authority, but most importantly it is Scripture interpreting itself. When Jesus said rock, he meant himself. In Greek, Peter would be a small rock taken from a larger rock, so what Jesus is saying is that Peter's authority is begotten of Jesus himself, the foundation.

But even more clear is the Arabic which Jesus spoke. In Arabic, Peter would be a smaller feminine rock, while, Jesus, as the rock, would be the larger masculine rock. Eve was taken from Adam. The authority of the Church is taken from Jesus through Peter in the same way. After all, Jesus is the Bridegroom and the Church his Bride, the Bride, through Peter, has Jesus' own authority.

I'm forced to challenge anyone to come up with a more scriptural interpretation of Matthew 16:18. If Protestants are honest, they have to consider this.

George Scanlon
West Roxbury, Massachusetts

Editor's reply: Jesus spoke Aramaic, not Arabic, and he gave Simon the Aramaic name "
Kepha," which, like the Greek "petra," means a large, massive rock, one that is suitable for a foundation. Your "third alternative" has been around ever since the Reformation. Although Jesus is the ultimate foundation of the Church, the structure of Matthew 16:18 and the Aramaic used by our Lord preclude, in this passage, the word "rock" from referring to Jesus himself. For more information on this, see my book



Women lead men


I WAS surprised to see all the negative feedback in the December 1994 edition over the priesthood issue (which is not really an issue, as you have pointed out). The women and men who are fighting against the Church's teaching of a male-only priesthood have closed their eyes and hearts to the beautiful role that God has reserved for women.

We have only to look at the Bible to find our (women's) call in the Catholic Church. Mary Magdalene, who was the first to see and touch Jesus, was the first to believe the Good News of Jesus' Resurrection. The first to proclaim that Good News--"I have seen the Lord!" (John 20:18).

Ah, but listen to Jesus' words to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Rather, go to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God!'<<|" (John 20:17). Just nine verses after that listen to Jesus' words to the men of his Church, "Take your fingers and examine my hands. Put your hands into my side. Do not persist in your unbelief, but believe!"

So to the woman, bravely searching and believing, he says, "Don't touch," but go proclaim. To the men, scared, hiding, and unbelieving (yet ordained), "Do not just touch, but take your hand and examine my very being."

What a wonderfully important calling we women have! In today's world, which fills our children's minds with things material, when our brothers, husbands, and even our priests are bombarded with this world's concerns--financial, political, and temporal--we women, though facing many of the same concerns, are called not only to lift up our eyes to heaven's most glorious King, but also to lift up the eyes of our struggling male counterparts.

The world does not need women priests. It needs women who can teach the children and remind the men of humility, charity, compassion, patience, belief, faith, hope and love by their words and actions.

Mrs. John Orban
Rapid City, South Dakota



Who's saved?


IT'S strange and ironic that a magazine of Catholic apologetics would proclaim salvation outside the Church. I'm referring to Mr. Michael Mazza's opinion in the December issue that people who do not know the Catholic Church can be saved. Effectively, he says that faith is not necessary for salvation.

While most heresy is persuasive to a degree, this one leaves my imagination cold. Let me illustrate my quandary with a fill-in-the-blank question: There are those of good will who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of holy religion. Though earnestly seeking God and truth, they are left in ignorance by God, who has no _______ to reveal the faith to them. Possible answers: (a) means, (b) desire, (c) compelling reason.

Since God is almighty and desires all to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth, the answer must be (c). But (c) just doesn't fit a God who suffered and died for men. Can you or Mr. Mazza fill in the blank?

The answer is, of course, that God does reveal the faith to men of good will (per St. Thomas Aquinas). This is an essential corollary to the infallibly-defined dogma that the Catholic faith is necessary for salvation. St. Alphonsus, who clearly lacked Mr. Mazza's enlightenment, said it best: "What would have become of us if we had been born in Asia, Africa, America, or in the midst of heretics and schismatics? He who does not believe is lost. . . . We would have been like our fathers of old, who adored animals and blocks of stone and wood; and thus we all would have perished!" (Preparation for Death, p. 339).

Besides your obligation to print the whole truth, you must be extra diligent on those things necessary for salvation. If you provide some hope for salvation outside the Church, you will have to answer for the soul who imbibes this and fails to convert himself or his neighbor.

Gerald Benitz
Amy Benitz
North Chelmsford, Massachusetts

Editor's reply: Mr. Mazza did not "proclaim salvation outside the Church." He proclaimed the Church's interpretation of the dogma extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church no salvation"). This interpretation has been stated clearly by popes such as Pius IX, Pius XII, and John Paul II, and it is found in the teaching of Vatican II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church: Someone who is not a formal member of the Church, who remains outside of the visible Church through invincible ignorance yet who remains "related" to it through grace, and who follows the lights God gives him may be saved. The Church has never said it is likely that he will be saved--it has not even said that it is likely that Catholics will be saved, nor has the Church said that someone outside its visible boundaries has as good a chance as a Catholic to be saved. (All else being equal, the Catholic has the better chance).

The issue is, What constitutes sufficient "membership" in the Church? That is not for you to decide, nor for me. It is for the magisterium, which has concluded that the rigorist interpretation of "no salvation outside the Church" is not the interpretation to be held by Catholics.




What I saw on the lists.


THE story in November's issue about a National Catholic Reporter article that recommended a number of Internet lists on religion really caught my attention. For almost a year I've been on two of the lists: WMSPRT-L and AmerCath. Although AmerCath does contain some legitimate scholarly discussions of American Catholic history, it seems that there is more communication concerning current events.

The Pope's recent letter on the question of women's ordination, for example, elicited a heavy response--mostly negative to one degree or another. Apologetical discussions seem to be frowned upon (it's a list for the discussion of history, not apologetics, is the reminder). Once, when a college student asked for help in presenting the Catholic Church's teaching on purgatory to a Fundamentalist teacher in an ongoing discussion they were having, I did post several suggested readings (books and Scripture) as well as the address and phone number of Catholic Answers. I never heard back from the student on how he did or what he did, but someone else responded that we should never use proof texts, for it only leads to exchanging verses of Scripture back and forth and there's no winner.

As for WMSPRT-L (Women's Spirituality and Feminist-Oriented Religion), most discussion centers on goddess-worship, Wicca, paganism, the environment (nature-worship), attacks on Christianity in generall and, of course, the "patriarchal, mysogynistic" Catholic Church in particular. Matthew Fox is a big hero though, as are several female Catholic saints, Joan of Arc and Hildegard of Bingen. There are some women who claim to be Christians and are trying to reform the Church from within (reform meaning the tearing down of the patriarchy and the lifting up of the goddess/female side of God), but the majority are Wiccans or pagans, some of whom are ex-Christians/ex-Catholics.

So far, I have remained a "lurker." I'm not quite sure how to introduce an apologetical discussion on the list. They really jump on anyone who expresses anything which is taken as anti-feminist or pro-orthodox Christian. A woman once sent a message supporting the Catholic Church's teachings on abortion.

There were only a few responses, but they were very pro-abortion and very critical of the woman and the Church. (One announced that the Catholic Church has taught that abortion is a sin only since 1873.) Also, there's the threat of being "unsubscribed" from the list by the listowner for deviating from the purpose of the list--a Catholic apologist might not last long.

Marcus Schlichter
Wayne, Nebraska



Ouch!


This priest [shown in an enclosed photograph] just had a violent confrontation with a rabid fundamentalist. He displayed his bruises in a photograph in his parish bulletin recently. Unquestionably, a Tract Sampler could help him sharpen his argumentative and apologetics skills. The rest I leave to the local karate instructor.

Name withheld by request
Bremerton, Washington



Off with their heads?


IT'S a curious thing, when the obvious is disagreed upon. I have in mind the Latin Mass, which all civilized persons rightly think of as the glory of Western Civilization, the calm, transcendent focus point of Christendom. Can one really imagine the great minds and achievements, both religious or secular, ever arising without its existence and unquestioned acceptance? Yet in a sea-change out of all order or precedent, this priceless jewel of the Church was abruptly shelved by politically-ascendant modern clerics, who, presumably in company with the majority of modern men, had had enough of the Great Past.

Is doctrine still pure? Where, I ask, is the baby Jesus safer: in Mary's arms, or in Herod's arms? (A rhetorical excess I could not resist.) I think it is safer to assert that doctrine, especially that of the Real Presence, is far better preserved in the venerable Latin Mass than the Ritus Experimentum which unsuccessfully labors to fulfill the modest wishes of the fathers of the Vatican II. Does anyone really believe that those able men would have actually approved what has transpired? Not a few eminent men of the Church--for example, Msgr. Klaus Gamber--think not.

I apologize for the clumsiness of much of the foregoing, written in haste and passion, but perhaps it conveys my general drift and leads logically to this point where I wish to express my displeasure with what I perceive to be a flaw in your work, with which I am otherwise in agreement: your unwarranted persistent connection of "Traditionalists" with one unsavory heresy or another, particularly by our old friend "guilt by association" or the off-with-their-heads "Alice in Wonderland" non-sequitur. I do hope you inspect your own copy with the same care you comb the tracts of the Protestants you so graciously address ad nauseum.

William Jansen
Forest Grove, Oregon

Editor's reply: What is an "off-with-their-heads 'Alice in Wonderland' non-sequitur"? Whatever it is, we haven't used it. (I don't recollect poor Alice ever making an appearance in these pages.) When you conclude that we lump all Traditionalists together, you read too much into the few articles we have published about fringe Traditionalists.

The fact is that Catholic Traditionalism has received, unjustifiably, a bad name, even among orthodox Catholics, because some Traditionalists (a minority, surely) have adopted the Protestant principle of private interpretation and have moved so far from what they consider abuses that they have left the Church entirely.

A good example are the folks at Mount St. Michael in Spokane. This one-time Jesuit seminary is now operated by a group of former Catholics who style themselves the only real Catholics. They think the last several occupants of the See of Peter haven't been real popes at all, and they entirely reject Vatican II.

If authentic Traditionalists don't disavow people such as these, the entire Traditionalist movement will fall into disrepute. It's precisely the liberal opponents of what you want to preserve who lump together real Traditionalists and, well, "kooks."

We consider ourselves "traditional" Catholics, and we applaud the good work that many Traditionalists have undertaken. But nothing good can come from associating with (or refusing to dissociate from) people who have set up their own petit eglise or who have arrogated to themselves the authority to interpret Catholic doctrines. Schism and opposition to the magisterium always fail in the long run, no matter how satisfying it may be to some to participate in them in the short run. We do no one in the Church a favor by pretending that there aren't troublemakers in the Traditionalist movement.




Bad language, guys!


FROM Robert Spencer's article on Pope Honorius (September 1994): "papal black sheep or, perhaps, the papal wolves. Most of these were dissolute scoundrels who were too busy drinking and whoring to occupy themselves with doctrine."

[This] language would be considered crude and immature in any serious magazine, especially so in a Catholic one, especially referring to the papacy. It is sad that a Catholic periodical--and called This Rock--should be so carelessly insensitive towards human misery to allow such scurrilous language when speaking of the papacy. I was a Navy chaplain for many years. Sailors use such expressions, but it would be sad indeed if they applied them to their parents, regardless of any past mistakes.

Let's face it, the opposition of American Catholics against the pope, Rome, and the Vatican revolves almost exclusively around sexual/gender issues: celibacy, male priesthood, birth control, abortion, homosexuality, divorce and remarriage, inclusive language, etc. The incidental remark in the article is precisely what the opposition to the magisterium of the Church wants to hear to justify their dissent. Undocumented generalities do not consider the specific human context, are usually judgmental, and, in this case, irreverent toward the humanity that Christ loved even unto death, that his image be restored in each one of us.

I feel the matter serious enough to take this time to comment because human sexuality is a very serious matter and because our generation is going through a crisis that concerns the very institution of marriage and the meaning of love. The authority of Peter is very important in solving this crisis.

Rev. Anthony Navarria
Ajo, Arizona

Editor's reply: Thank you for your constructive criticism, Father. The words were pointed, and perhaps the blue pencil could have been applied to them, but they would have been replaced with words which, while easier on the eyes, still would have noted that at certain times in the Church's history the highest positions of authority have been occupied by men whose personal conduct caused such grave scandal that some found in their actions sufficient reasons (or so they thought) to jettison the Church entirely.

Even as we reject that thinking, we need to keep in mind that the worst pope in history, whoever that may have been, was protected in official teaching by the Holy Spirit and never taught as true doctrine what in fact was false. There is no evidence that any pope whose morals were questionable ever taught falsely.





Worshiping the goddess


WE are always delighted to receive This Rock. In the September 1994 issue there was a news item about Olivia Robertson and the Fellowship of Isis at Huntington Castle in Ireland. The Fellowship was founded by Olivia and her brother, Lawrence Durdin Robertson, formerly ordained in the Episcopalian Church--I can't remember which branch, most likely the Church of Ireland, but I am not certain it wasn't the Church of England. I believe they are cousins of Robert Graves, author of The White Goddess.

Durdin Robertson died a few months ago, and his obituary told the story that, when he was first drawn to worship the goddess, he went to his bishop to resign his orders. The bishop is said to have told Durdin he saw no contradiction between being an Anglican clergyman and worshipping Isis. It was Durdin himself who decided the two were irreconcilable and withdrew from the church.

The Robertsons are quite well-known over here. Durdin held an Irish peerage, and the Castle was on the tourist circuit. I have seen a feature on it in the glossy Homes and Gardens. I think they were well-liked, both because the Irish love an eccentric and because they are/were very nice people. From what I remember of their newsletters, which I saw when I was a member of a similar group in the late 1970s and early 1980s, much of their following was in West Africa. I doubt they found many disciples in Ireland.

Helen Gilmour
Bradford, England



Well-armed youths


I KNOW from experience what a wonderful tool Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth is. We were each handed a booklet from our diocese as we boarded buses on our way down to Denver for World Youth Day.

We encountered the Fundamentalists at our first stop in Boise, Idaho. Well, that really motivated the youth on our bus to start looking for some answers--and they had them in their hands!

Two young men went up to the front of the bus and, using the loud speaker, began to go over the answers in the booklet. Bibles were opened, and we read through the supporting Scriptures together. It was wonderful watching the Spirit work--so many of the kids did not know the biblical basis to support their faith. It was reassuring for them to know what we believe and why we believe it. We prayed the rosary together, after which many private discussions took place. By the time we hit Denver, they were prepared and confident.

Melanie Lischka
Quincy, Washington



Surprised by Surprised


I JUST finished Surprised by Truth and it was a fantastic book! I especially enjoyed the guy who went to the Jimmy Swaggert Bible School as a last-ditch effort to avoid poping.

Bob Slomiany
Ypsilanti, Michigan



Sister's Valentine


YOUR generous gift of two works, Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth and Surprised by Truth just reached me. What a beautiful Valentine! What a lovely surprise! And all this for my tiny donation towards the cause of evangelization. At present I am reading Pope John Paul's book Crossing the Threshold of Hope. What a profound source I have for drinking the living waters of truth. How did your recent crusade for truth develop and spread? I trust Christ and you, his apostles of the Catholic press, were pleased and continue to see our beautiful Mother Church spread.

Sr. Mercedes Winters
Fallen, Montana


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