Born Again - The Bible Way

October 5, 2013 | 239 comments

“Have you been born again, my friend?” Thousands of Catholics have been asked this question by well-meaning Fundamentalists or Evangelicals. Of course, by “born again” the Protestant usually means: “Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior through the recitation of ‘the sinner’s prayer?”” How is a Catholic to respond?

The simple Catholic response is: “Yes, I have been born again—when I was baptized.” In fact, Jesus’ famous “born again” discourse of John 3:3-5, which is where we find the words “born again” in Scripture, teaches us about the essential nature of baptism:

Jesus answered him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Nicode'mus said to him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?" Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.”

At this point, a Fundamentalist or Evangelical will respond almost predictably: “Baptism does not save you, brother; John 3:5 says we must be born of water and the Spirit.” The Catholic will then be told the “water” of John 3:5 has nothing to do with baptism. Depending on the preference of the one to whom the Catholic is speaking, the “water” will either be interpreted as man’s natural birth (the “water” being amniotic fluid), and “the Spirit” would then represent the new birth, or the water would represent the word of God through which one is born again when he accepts Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior.

Amniotic Fluid vs. Baptismal Water

To claim the “water” of John 3:5 is amniotic fluid is to stretch the context just a smidgen! When we consider the actual words and surrounding context of John 3, the waters of baptism seem to be the more reasonable—and biblical—interpretation. Consider these surrounding texts:

John 1:31-34: Jesus was baptized. If you compare the parallel passage in St. Matthew’s gospel (3:16), you find that when Jesus was baptized, “the heavens were opened” and the Spirit descended upon him. Obviously, this was not because Jesus needed to be baptized. In fact, St. John the Baptist noted that he needed to be baptized by Jesus (see Matthew 3:14)! Jesus was baptized in order “fulfill all righteousness” and “to give knowledge of salvation to his people in the forgiveness of their sins,” according to Scripture (cf. Matt. 3:15; Luke 1:77). In other words, Jesus demonstrably showed us the way the heavens would be opened to us so that the Holy Spirit would descend upon us… through baptism.

John 2:1-11: Jesus performed his first miracle. He transformed water into wine. Notice, Jesus used water from “six stone jars … for the Jewish rites of purification.” According to the Septuagint as well as the New Testament these purification waters were called baptismoi (see LXX, Numbers 19:9-19; cf. Mark 7:4). We know that Old Testament rites, sacrifices, etc. were only “a shadow of the good things to come” (Hebrews 10:1). They could never take away sins. This may well be why “six” stone jars are specified by St. John—to denote imperfection, or “a human number” (cf. Rev. 13:18). It is interesting to note that Jesus transformed these Old Testament baptismal waters into wine—a symbol of New Covenant perfection (see Joel 3:18; Matthew 9:17).

John 3:22: Immediately after Jesus’ “born again” discourse to Nicodemus, what does He do? "... Jesus and his disciples went into the land of Judea; there he remained with them and baptized." It appears he baptized folks. This is the only time in Scripture we find Jesus apparently actually baptizing.

John 4:1-2: Jesus’ disciples then begin to baptize at Jesus’ command. It appears from the text, Jesus most likely only baptized his disciples and then they baptized everyone else. 

In summary, Jesus was baptized, transformed the “baptismal” waters, and then gave his famous “born again” discourse. He then baptized before commissioning the apostles to go out and baptize. To deny Jesus was teaching us about baptism in John 3:3-5 is to ignore the clear biblical context.

Moreover, John 3:5 is not describing two events; it describes one event. The text does not say “unless one is born of water and then born again of the Spirit...” It says “unless one is born of water and Spirit...” If we hearken back to the Lord’s own baptism in John 1 and Matt. 3, we notice when our Lord was baptized the Holy Spirit descended simultaneously upon him. This was one event, involving both water and the Spirit. And so it is with our baptism. If we obey God in being baptized—that’s our part of the deal—we can count on God to concurrently “open the heavens” for us and give us the Holy Spirit. 

And finally, it would be anachronistic to read into Jesus’ use of “water” to mean physical birth in John’s gospel. In fact, St. John had just used a word to refer to physical birth in John 1:12-13, but it wasn’t “water:”

But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

St. John here tells us we are not made children of God by birth (“of blood”), or by our own attempts whether they be through our lower nature (“of the flesh”) or even through the higher powers of our soul (“the will of man”); rather, we must be born of God, or by God’s power. Notice, St. John refers to natural birth colloquially as “of blood,” not “of water.”

Washing of Water by the Word

It is perhaps an even greater stretch to attempt to claim the “water” of John 3:3-5 represents the word of God. At least with the amniotic fluid argument, you have mention of “birth” in the immediate context. However, the Protestant will sometimes refer to Ephesians 5:25-26 and a few other texts to make this point:

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word…

“See?” a Protestant may say, “The ‘washing of water’ is here equated to ‘the word’ that cleanses us.” If you couple this text with Jesus’ words in John 15:3, “You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you,” the claim is made, that “the water” of John 3:5 would actually refer to the word of God rather than baptism. 

The Catholic Response

Beyond the obvious fact that there is nothing in the context of John's gospel to even remotely point to "water" as referring to "the word," we can point out immediately a point of agreement. Both Catholics and Protestants agree that Jesus’ words—unless one is born anew (or, again)—speak of man’s initial entrance into the body of Christ through God’s grace. Perhaps it would be helpful at this point to ask what the New Testament writers saw as the instrument whereby one first enters into Christ. This would be precisely what we are talking about when we speak of being “born again.” 

I Peter 3:20-21: “... in the days of Noah during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.”

Romans 6:3-4: "Are you unaware that we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?  We were indeed buried with Him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life." 

Galatians 3:27: "For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ."

I Cor. 12:13: "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit (See also Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16 and Col. 2:11-13).

If baptism is the way the unsaved are brought into Christ, no wonder Christ spoke of being “born of water and spirit.” Baptism is the instrument of new birth according to the New Testament.



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Comments by Members

#101  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

If you don't follow the truth in the bible, showing you the way to Eternal life then it's like subtracting one from one = 0. it's like following a map to your destination, you have to know where north is. Once you've arrived you can throw the map away. there are questions that only require one answer. like: NOT by Works of righteousness which I HAVE DONE-but according to His Mercy He SAVES US. (Jesus Pd. In FULL, ONCE, FOR ALL ,FOREVER) for your Redemption. No residual stain left. No Purgatory. No need for Merits. Tell Jesus you are thankful for His Sacrifice paying for your sins and say I accept your free gift. If you do this you become a Child of the Most High GOD. God never reneges. His promises are YES and AMEN. again If you don't acknowledge this before you die there is nothing that will save you and you will go to HELL.

April 4, 2014 at 3:39 pm PST
#102  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Your fun talking with Dick, your love for Christ is obvious even though we disagree on theology. I know you feel you have the truth, but then again so do I, and believe me there is nothing in this world more important than my faith, my whole life revolves around it. You probably think you have the Holy Spirit and I do not because I am Catholic, I can assure you that there has been more miracles than I can count since my "reversion", I had to stop writing them down because I couldn't keep up. As your brother in Christ I would like to ask you to do something for me... just once acknowledge that Catholics love Christ as much as you do. I have experienced nothing in my faith that takes me away from Christ, everything about it builds upon my relationship with Christ, I love the graces He bestows upon me through His Church and couldn't ask for greater gifts of mercy and love, it is what Christ gives me that sustains my soul and makes me grow as a Christian. If I said anything in the past to offend you accept my most sincere apologies, I am just very pasionate about my faith and may come across the wrong way sometimes. God bless and see you on some more blogs!!

April 4, 2014 at 4:57 pm PST
#103  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were in agreement that Jesus Had to Come to redeem us because we could not save ourselves. There is NOTHING we can do but to accept the free gift of Redemption. ( to be bought back by the original owner.) Jesus lived a perfect life and became the Sacrifice that satisfied the Payment for our Sins. Jesus exchanged His Righteousness (ability to stand in Gods presence) for our sinfulness; making us clean and able to be in Gods Family. We are not able to attain heaven on our own Merits. The Bible says we all have sinned and come up short of the Glory of God. He had only you on his mind when He died in your place. Don’t give anyone else or yourself the credit for your Salvation. Jesus did this as a free gift for you.
All you have to do is: No.1- Believe who He is and what He did for you by Faith. Ask Him to come into your Heart (spirit) and He will do it. No.2 you need to tell someone what you did. You became a Child of God and it can never be taken from you. Good News.. You’re just a prayer away. Say,” Father, I thank you for Jesus and offering Himself for my Salvation. I invite you into my life as my personal Lord and Savior. Holy Spirit, I ask you to fill me with your presence and help me to seek my relationship With the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is the only requirement; and a must prayer; (and mean it in your heart) to enter in to heaven. the best gift you can give yourself. Study Eph. 2: 1-10.

April 6, 2014 at 11:29 am PST
#104  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Jesus said to pick up our cross and follow Him, not punch our own ticket to get an easy one way ticket to paradise. He also tells us not everyone who cries Lord Lord will enter heaven. Jesus makes it clear He alone is the judge of our salvation, not you. Furthermore, if an Apostle, who Jesus personally hand picked and was under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit tells me to work out my salvation and to do so with fear and trembling, then I too will do the same. My Lord and Savior suffered and died, and all the other Apostles suffered too and all but one died a martyr. Not one of them preached easy street salvation, and not one of them failed to seperate Scripture from the Church. They established Churches and these Churches had more than a little post card that said follow these three easy steps and your done, its that easy. These Churches had altars, and they weren't for decorations. If you want to know what worship was like before the church of Dick came along then read about Justin Martyr. He gave a detailed description and got his head chopped off for doing so. He was two generations away from Christ and was taught by someone who actually sat at the feet of the Apostles. ALL of the Apostles and early Christians attended Mass, that's why they had altars in the churches and why so many were killed and had to hold Mass in hidden places such as the catacombs. They were accused of canabalism not because of a simple misunderstanding of a symbol, but because they gave their lives professing that the Eucharist was the real body and blood of Christ. If it were as easy as you have made it seem, then a whole lot of folks got their heads chopped off, fed to the beasts, whipped, tortured, and killed in so many ways when they could have stayed home and professed easy street salvation. Your theology Dick is very incomplete and is the complete opposite of everything Christ said and did. While you sit on a few of your favorite verses upon your golden throne as the judge of your own soul, and that of others, I shall continue carrying my cross and working out my salvation with fear and trembling and let God judge me. My worship will reflect that of the Apostles, the Bishops and Presbtyrs they hand picked, and that of the early Christians who so many gave their lives for not just a simple three step profession, but for REAL worship of our Lord! You tell me to study Eph 2:1-10, you might want to study Genesis through Revelation, all of it. Then you might want to do a follow up study and learn how the first generations of Christians taught by the Apostles applied their faith. It wasn't enough knowing who Jesus was and what He did for us, it was also doing what Jesus commanded and to imitate His good works. Just like James so plainly says, a faith without works is dead! A profession without a follow up is dead, dead, dead, and dead wrong!

April 7, 2014 at 4:04 am PST
#105  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Correction...not one of them seperated Scripture from Church.

April 7, 2014 at 1:38 pm PST
#106  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

If your adding Works that you have to do to Jesus completed Sacrifice you won't make it . We have a jealous God.
2 Corinthians 11:2-4
For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!

April 7, 2014 at 2:01 pm PST
#107  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

You don't have to do any works Dick, you don't have to go against your will and imitate Christ with works of mercy and charity. Why feed the hungy, bring drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, and shelter the homeless? That was just a suggestion by Christ, He didn't really mean it. You don't even have to forgive one another as Jesus forgives you, it is your free will. Just keep in mind, Jesus will not forgive you if you do not forgive (a work) one another the way He forgives you.

Your a very good evangalizer for our faith!!! Look forward to more!!!

April 7, 2014 at 5:21 pm PST
#108  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

I'm sending you what will save you. It just goes over you head. I would give the same information to my mother. no appreciation, I don't want you to be ignorant brethren.

April 7, 2014 at 7:33 pm PST
#109  david pruit - dallas, Texas

A simple clarification that still hasn't been made in over a hundred back and forth posts: Dick please define "faith". It is either "intellectual consent, a synonym for belief" or it is "conversion of heart, hope, and charity (love)". If by "faith alone" you mean a formed faith alive in graciously bestowed love, then you Catholics would agree with you. If you mean mere intellectual consent then no I'm sorry you are mistaken and we must continue to try and witness to you until you realize that by placing your trust in your own intellectual capacity to "believe" and thus be justified you violate the very tenet by which you base your argument against "works". You've elevated your mind into the position to be your saving grace.

We as Catholics also must be careful to define works. As we've already discussed many times earlier in these posts, one cannot merit justification (you yourself agree). But a Christian life lived in faith, hope and love (or as you might call it if you define it properly as discussed above,"faith") follow justification and are its fruits. "When the justified live in Christ and act in the grace they receive they bring forth in biblical terms, good fruit" (Joint declaration).

April 7, 2014 at 10:09 pm PST
#110  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, we firmly disagree with one another, and believe me when I say your blogging entrenches me deeper in my Catholic faith. Your message of "saving ones self with just words" apart from love doesn't jive with what I read in Scripture.

The greatest COMMANDMENTS, not suggestions, from Christ is to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. The second part of that is to love one another the way He loves us. Love isn't just words, love is so much deeper than a profession of vows, love is doing for one another! There is a reason why Jesus says in Scripture that what ever you do for the least of these you do for me. Then the very next thing out of the mouth of Christ, our only way to heaven, is this..."Then he will say to those on his left, DEPART from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Then my Lord and Savior tells why they were accursed and made to depart to ETERNAL hell, it wasn't because of what they failed to say and profess, it was because of what they FAILED TO DO! For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothes, sick and in prison and you did not minister to me!

And if that wasn't clear enough here are the finishing words from this stern sermon from our Saviour Jesus Christ..."AND THESE WILL GO OFF TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (the ones who failed to do works of love) BUT THE RIGHTEOUS TO ETERNAL LIFE (those who did works of love).

How much clearer can it get? If you do no acts of love you do not love the least of thee, and if you do not love the least of thee you do not love Christ, if you do not love Christ you break the greatest of commandments, when you break the greatest of commandments He will ask you to depart for eternity, and for those who do love Him He gives eternal life.

You may not do it on purpose Dick, but the things you say are the opposite or incomplete of what Jesus says. I know you have good intentions but there is no way this sermon from Christ, the one doing the saving, can get any clearer. You can throw 100 other Scripture verses at me and make that many more insults against the Catholic Church, but you can not erase or change the Word of God. He tells us we MUST love one another with acts of love (works) and if we do not He will make us depart. It is what it is no matter how much you do not want it to be true!

Once again, thank you Dick!!! You are helping my faith very much!!!

April 8, 2014 at 5:51 am PST
#111  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

This is the definition of Biblical Faith. Faith can only be activated by knowing the will of God.
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. There are other types of faith we apply every day of our lives. Faith in airplane travel, when we sit down in a chair that it will hold us especially if you over weight. Biblical faith is trusting in God's word that if we believe and act on it- it will produce. God is a Faith God. He spoke everything into existence. He has given to those who believe his word the same power to speak thing his word says. It says when we accept Jesus for our salvation; that we died on the Cross 2,000 yrs. ago when He took our place. we died to sin. and dead men can't sin. Sin is applicable to the unsaved .
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. I will try to make it as understandable as I can. When you are unsaved no amount of kind deeds, all of what you've named as works are called Dead Works - God does not see them ;as if you had never done anything. When you get saved it is only by Jesus work that counts. You can't add or subtract one thing that you do. Jesus then activates your works ( Good Works) because you Love God and your neighbor but has nothing to do with you salvation. It is what were save for to work out our salvation-proof to ourselves that the Holy Spirit lives in us. Salvation is a total GIFT that does not have to be earned. Has nothing to do with works. Some people who have worked for God all their life but have never be born again will not make Heaven. and there will be people who received Jesus out of last resort ( death-bed experience) and never got the chance to do Good Works and serve Him and die will go to Heaven. You stated; "the Righteous to Eternal life". This is a dictionary explaining being Righteous. ( It proceeds on the imputing or crediting to the believer by God himself of the perfect righteousness, active and passive, of his Representative and Surety, Jesus Christ (Rom. 10:3-9). Justification is not the forgiveness of a man without righteousness, but a declaration that he possesses a righteousness which perfectly and for ever satisfies the law, namely, Christ’s righteousness.) (2 Cor. 5:21; Rom. 4:6-8.) Go ahead and throw it all out as nonsense. NOT by Works Of Righteousness which YOU had done, BUT according to His mercy (GRACE) He SAVED us. You're Saved by what you Believe and Confess ,by your words .
Romans 10:9-10
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Quoting Scripture is the way Jesus fought the Devil and won. I'll keep doing it correctly till Jesus comes. You deserve it. Lack of Works He not MAKE us depart. The bible say's there are three places to find truth. Jesus is truth; The Word is Truth; and the Holy Spirit is truth. No where does it say the Church is Truth accept in your Catechism. Written by mere Men.

April 8, 2014 at 8:00 am PST
#112  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick says ...Lack of Works He not MAKE us depart.

Jesus says...Then he will say to those on his left, DEPART FROM ME, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, sick and in prison and you did not care for me.

Who do we believe?
The gospel of Dick who says, "He not MAKE us depart." Or....
The Gospel of Jesus who says, "Depart from me, you accursed.

Dick says you don't have to do works of love, charity, and mercy.
Jesus says you must or you will be accursed and thrown into the eternal fire.This clear warning from Jesus can be found in the Gospel of St. Matthew chapter 25. As if saying it once from Jesus isn't enough to get the point across, Christ Jesus includes the word Amen (because He is being more stern) and says it again!

Who is more qualified to tell us what we must do to have eternal life?
Dick, a sinful man, who can not judge nor give eternal life. Or....
Jesus, the Divine, and the only one who can give eternal life.

Dick goes on to say this..."No where does it say the Church is the truth accept in your Catechism."
However, here is what the Holy Spirit tells us in Scripture..."you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the Living God, THE PILLAR AND FOUNDATION OF THE TRUTH." That can be found in St.Pauls first letter to Timothy chapter 3 verse 15.

Once again Dick says the opposite of Scripture.

Like a broken record, Dick will now repeat the same things he has been saying over and over. He will do his best do divert attention away from these Scripture verses by going on a lengthy strung together snippets of

April 9, 2014 at 5:10 am PST
#113  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

(Sorry for the abrupt end on last post, my hand accidently hit the post now button)

.....Scripture that only fits his theology. He will distort the words of Jesus in Matthew 25 or ignore it all together. Then he will redefine church and hurl insults at the Catholic church. He will say the real church was invisible, or the old church went apostate and was pagan. He will also tell us he has the Holy Spirit while anyone who disagrees with him does not.

I have come to a conclusion...if Dick will not listen to these words from Christ,

"He will annswer them, 'Amen I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me. And these will go off into eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

...then neither wlll Dick listen to me or the Church of the Living God, therefore I will shake the dust from my feet and move along. Goodbye and God bless, done with this one.

April 9, 2014 at 5:37 am PST
#114  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Jesus is speaking to SINNERS ( The unsaved). To be obedient you should do as Jesus said to be born Again. Notice He said to the saved "but the RIGHTEOUS to eternal life.

April 10, 2014 at 3:17 pm PST
#115  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, your so silly! Thank God everyone else can read Matthew 25 for what it is.

April 10, 2014 at 8:27 pm PST
#116  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Chris; Your so silly Matt. 25: 41- 46. Can't you see Jesus is talking to Two groups of people; Those who disobey, On the Left. (depart from Me you cursed) and tells of all who qualify in that category. Those who are in the obedient class, on the right. ( But the Righteous into eternal Life.) Those who are righteous are of the born again group. If your not born again your deeds mentioned here are called DEAD WORKS. and are unrighteous. The Deeds of the Righteous are called GOOD WORKS done after you are born again and the Work are accounted to you account for receiving a reward in Heaven. Matt. 25:41-46
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

April 11, 2014 at 8:39 am PST
#117  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Chris; Your so silly Matt. 25: 41- 46. Can't you see Jesus is talking to Two groups of people; Those who disobey, On the Left. (depart from Me you cursed) and tells of all who qualify in that category. Those who are in the obedient class, on the right. ( But the Righteous into eternal Life.) Those who are righteous are of the born again group. If your not born again your deeds mentioned here are called DEAD WORKS. and are unrighteous. The Deeds of the Righteous are called GOOD WORKS done after you are born again and the Work are accounted to you account for receiving a reward in Heaven. Matt. 25:41-46
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” To be Righteous is not what you do but who you belong to. You can never do enough to satisfy God but we are to do Good Works for the kingdom. Those who do the Works without Jesus are doomed, but if you do the Works With Jesus are the Righteous ones.

April 11, 2014 at 8:47 am PST
#118  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Sorry the program didn't work properly. It did not Post. so I added more to it. Be blessed.

April 11, 2014 at 8:50 am PST
#119  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Bingo!!!!!!! The people on the left disobeyed!!!!! Alleluia!!!!!

Jesus tells us HOW they disobeyed and what WHAT HAPPENED when they diisobeyed!!!

No more and no less!

April 12, 2014 at 4:07 am PST
#120  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Bingo!!!!!! The people on the right obeyed!!!

Jesus tells HOW they obeyed and WHAT they received for obedience!!!

You said something very true Dick...Those who do works without Jesus are doomed. And those who do works WITH Jesus are indeed the righteous ones.

Works without faith are dead works, and faith without works is dead faith!!

That is exactly what Jesus tells us in Matthew 25, because Christ is in everybody, the hungry, the thirsty, naked, homeless, prisoners, etc...if we fail to love Christ then how could we be righteous? Love is more than a profession, love includes a profession AND acts of love. How can anyone say "I did not feed you when you were hungry Lord, but I deserve eternal life" or "I saw you naked, all alone and homeless Lord, but I turned my head and walked away, but it doesn't matter." If you think you can shun our Lord and deserve eternal life with Him after He suffered and died for you, then that is a selfish notion! What you are saying is that you have to love me Lord but I don't have to love you! Because I loved you one time Lord I can do anything I want!

It can not be any clearer in Scripture from our Lord...If you know our Lord and you willfuly turn your back on Him, He will tell you to depart! So your right Dick, we don't have to do works, He doesn't twist our arms to do so, and the flip side to that, He also doesn't have to give us eternal life!

April 12, 2014 at 5:30 am PST
#121  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

WORKS are DEAD Without Jesus. NOT BORN AGAIN, Your Spirit is alive to EVIL things but disconnected to your Heavenly Father. all you efforts to please Him are Called Dead WORKS. such as Giving money, Altar boy , singing in the choir, Visiting sick, becoming a priest or nun, anything done outside of having the Spirit of Jesus living in You.
Hebrews 6:1-3
Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
And this we will do if God permits. This is true ; we need to Repent from thinking works get us any where outside of Christ First. Repentance from DEAD works. After we are saved and have the spirit of Jesus living in us THEN and only THEN ;the same works are then called GOOD WORKS. When you are dead in your sin the only PRAYER that God Hears is the one that say's HELP ME JESUS. Then and only then does the switchboard operator connects you to the Father. Saved one are not excluded from doing works and we do them. I am saying that your salvation doesn't hinge on Works before or after your saved. It's a matter of maturing as a Christian. you have been mixing a baby's birth and what it tales to grow up. What happens at your spiritual Birth? A new spirit is born but dead to God because we have a sinful Nature. we need to be born again with the father God's Nature. Then you start to mature being on milk, then meat, then school, marriage, church. etc. If you Believe (understand) and why He came and confess to another that you invited Him into your spirit and beone with Him. You will receive everlasting Life.

April 12, 2014 at 8:31 am PST
#122  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

And faith is DEAD without works.

April 12, 2014 at 12:04 pm PST
#123  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

When people go to hell it has nothing to do with Works. Your already there / with out Jesus. To get into Heaven works are not necessary . JESUS got you there. Works require a wage to be paid. We owed a debt we could not pay. All through the Bible it tells us that Jesus paid our debt for us. it's a Free Gift to be received. The Gift is at your front door waiting for you to open and reach out for it. Doing Works to achieve salvation or doing Works to complete what Jesus has already accomplished is stupid.

April 15, 2014 at 7:20 am PST
#124  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Why does it bother you so much that we Catholics love to apply our faith and do as Jesus commanded us to do? We are not above His greatest commandments to love Him with all our heart, soul, mind, and to love one another the way He loves us. This is a COMMAND not a suggestion. If you want to ignore these commands then that is your free will. So relax Dick, we love these commandments and really do see our Lord in the least of thee, not just those hyprocrits who stand on the corner crying Lord Lord. We want to follow the example of our Lord, not just with our mouths, but in every way we can. Just chill and don't let it bother you so much, its out of love that we do acts of charity and mercy, we are not trying to earn anything as you keep wrongly implying.

April 16, 2014 at 4:41 am PST
#125  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

I believe that the works you mention are the good works we do after we are born again. We can do these acts of mercy after we are saved because we have God in us. the Holy Spirit dwells in our spirit. We also have the Nature of God Redeemed in us We can be filled or Baptized in the Holy Spirit. We are called the Children of God - Citizen of heaven. We are sealed, Preserved and are already seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. If you are not born again no works of mercy or dead works as they are called in the (Catholic Bible) mean anything; God does not even notice. All Unrighteousness in Sin. God does not even Hear the prayers of a Sinner only the Call to Jesus to Save you.
Ephesians 2:12-13
that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
Ephesians 2:1-6
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, There are Dead Works and Good Works; They are the Same , only separated by Jesus

April 16, 2014 at 10:51 am PST
#126  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

As can be observed from many of the posts on this blog there are those that think a profession of faith is a one way ticket to heaven. Jesus makes it very clear over and over it isn't just what you say, its what you do. Hypocrits talk, disciples do! Who set the example of how we treat others? Jesus did! Saying words never proves anything, true love takes action, and if you can't love our Lord above all, and love one another the way He loves us, then a profession is no more than an empty pity plea, Lord, Lord. Think about it, we are told to pick up our cross, that is an action, not just words! Our Lord did not save us with mere words, He saved us with His wonderful works, and we should imitate our Savior in every way posslible. Good night and God bless my brothers and sisters in Christ.

May 6, 2014 at 8:43 pm PST
#127  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Chris: You do not get it. The very Best that YOU can give to Redeem your self. doesn't even register of God's scale. Your OWN righteousness is as filthy Rags (Menses Rages). dirty.
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away. Jesus died for the Sin's of the World; Past, Present, and Future. He also came to fulfill the Law. He came to make us a New creation in Christ Jesus. The holy Spirit lives in us. We have a New nature. Old Man has passed away. When you are born again God say's He does not Remember your Sin's no more. Though your sin are as scarlet , God see's them as white as snow. If Jesus died for the sin's of the world how do we become connected to that? Obvious not by your efforts to balance the scale. The bible say's you have to believe it in heart (Spirit) and speak it into existence. This is how you apply FAITH to any thing god has for you. The new covenant was made between God and Jesus. You were the main purpose in coming because He knew you could not save yourself. The bible say's that we Died on the cross, we were buried, and we arose to new life. Jesus was our substitute. All of our bad choices, self righteousness, disobedience, etc. was nailed to the cross. When we were under the LAW we were slaves to Sin but now we are Son's and Daughter's of the most High God. This explains;
1 John 3:4-6
Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
1 John 3:8-9
He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. Don't argue with God's word. It is what it is. With out Jesus's covering. none of this can be yours. Receive His Free gift and what is his is Yours. The problem is people receive a gift from a Friend, and they think they have to reciprocate in some equal way. this does not work in this instance. We are to do things of mercy and love because Jesus first Loved us. Living the Christian Life is important. Some have a lot to give, others don't but give what they can. Jesus paid the price you couldn't pay.

May 7, 2014 at 9:04 am PST
#128  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, believe me I get it, your interpretation of Scripture is your own. Your very right Dick that our own righteousness is as dirty as a rag, that is why we Catholics believe it when God says nothing unholy can enter heaven, we must be cleansed, the process of being cleansed of all unholliness, we call that "purging." Thanks for pointing that out for us.

May 7, 2014 at 8:11 pm PST
#129  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Chris : What do Catholics believe that gets them into heaven? No scripture in the bible speaks of Purging out any residue of Sin. You can Purge Gold; you can purge you conscience. The dictionary (Purge) is Emptying out your bowel. Anorexia (Gagging food from your stomach.) What happened to Jesus's perfect sacrifice . God is completely satisfied. No residual sin dust left.
Ephesians 1:13-14
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Have you trusted? You have to Hear the word of truth? Obviously Not. Since I quoted God's Word. It's not my Own as you didn't recognize The truth ( GOD"S WORD). If you haven't Heard you can't believe; and you can't be Sealed with the Promise, Who guarantees your inheritance until the final day?

May 8, 2014 at 10:00 am PST
#130  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

We Catholics believe we must accept Christ as our Lord and Savior AND do His will for our entire lives. And I as have stated before to you, we must do as St. Paul, work out our salavation in fear and trembling. Also as St. James clarifies, we must have faith and works. No need for you to try and debunk what Scripture says with your own interpretations, we have already heard it over and over. We listen to Christ when He tells us that the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth, not Scripture alone or Dick, and also that if two dissgree and it can not be resolved by more witness' that we take it to the Church. Why do we take it to the Church? Because the Church is the pillar and foundation of the Truth.

There is plenty of Scripture that clearly says our bad will be burned away, while our good is retained. But of course there is no doubt that will mean something entirely different to you. Our bad works (sin) are burned away, gotten rid of! Sounds like great mercy from our Lord considering nothing unholy shall enter heaven.

May 8, 2014 at 4:12 pm PST
#131  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

We are to work out our salvation with Fear (Reverence)and trembling after we are Saved because Only thru the sacrifice of Jesus salvation COMES. You as a Human can't add or subtract anything to it. Once we are saved we need to live the life Jesus acquired for us. Your works before or after has nothing to do with you salvation. The bible is the only operating manual. It states only three truths found that we can count on and that is #1 the word is Truth;#2 Jesus is the Truth;#3 the Holy Spirit is Truth. The Bible teaches that if you Have Bad Works when you die you will go to Hell if not Born again because you Sins have not been dealt with. If you Die with Good works you will go to Heaven because You are born again. Your Sins have been dealt with. Dead works are things we build our spiritual house without Jesus. Good works are things we build our spiritual house with Jesus. I know you use 1 Corth.3:9-15 to prove Purgatory. This scripture is telling us to Build our temple out of material that will endure persecution and shipwreck to our mission or destiny in this life. Works are for Reward or lack of Reward Only. If you a Born Again believer Sin (has been - Past tense) dealt with on the Cross.

May 9, 2014 at 8:18 am PST
#132  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

If we are already saved there would be no reason to fear or tremble, what would there be to fear? I am aware we can not add or subtract anything to the sacrifice made by Christ, the point I am making is that we must cooperate with that sacrifice for it to apply to us, it with our free will. You are adding to what Scripture says, when you say "The Bible teaches that if you Have Bad Works when you die you will go to Hell if not Born again because you Sins have not been dealt with." you are adding your own interpretation to what Jesus said. If you are already saved how could your bad works send you to hell, and if you havnt accepted Christ then how could your good works send you to heaven. What you say is a total contridiction. Jesus tells us point blank our works are for more than a reward, our works can send us to hell, and St. James backs up what Jesus tells us. I certainly agree that a person must be born again of water and spirit, but that isnt all that Scripture tells us. You are taking one phrase out of Scripture and erasing everything else Christ says.

May 9, 2014 at 8:52 am PST
#133  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

I said if your not born again your Works, Good or bad, won't save you. I said if your born again your works, Good or Bad won't save you either. You mentioned in # 130 Working out your salvation in fear and trembling. If your saved we should pour out our benefits we have received from being born again to others ; this is what working out;(Pouring out) as having a full cup and sharing the contents. Fear and trembling means with Reverence. Nowhere has Jesus ever said your Works will send you to Hell. Sin without Jesus Will send you to Hell. Works without Jesus; You've been judge already. If you have Jesus you will not be judge for your sin. You will receive a Reward or a lack of reward for what you have done on earth for the kingdom. Do a study on Righteousness. OUR Benefits Received- being inherited, an heir of the last will and testament of Jesus.

May 9, 2014 at 3:40 pm PST
#134  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

God's Grace is all we need. So let the Holy Sacraments of Our Lord be known and made.
Outward signs of inward grace, instituted by Christ for our sanctification.

"The heavens show forth the glory of God, and the firmament declareth the work of his hands" (Psalm 18:2)

"Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" (John 3:5); "He saved us, by the laver of regeneration, and renovation of the Holy Ghost" (***** 3:5); "Then they laid their hands upon them, and they received the Holy Ghost" (Acts 8:17); "He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life . . . For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed" (John 6:55-56)

Reason tells us that all sacraments must come originally from God. Since they are the signs of sacred things in so far as by these sacred things men are sanctified (Summa Theologiæ III:60:2); since the external rite (matter and form) of itself cannot give grace, it is evident that all sacraments properly so called must originate in DIVINE APPOINTMENT (my emphasis). "Since the sanctification of man is in the power of God who sanctifies", writes St. Thomas (Summa Theologiæ III:60:2), "it is not in the competency of man to choose the things by which he is to be sanctified, but this must be determined by Divine institution". Add to this that grace is, in some sense, a participation of the Divine nature and our doctrine becomes unassailable: God alone can decree that by exterior ceremonies men shall be partakers of His nature.

Conclusion: It is not I who can save myself (e.g. my faith alone) but through the power of God, Grace that All We Need, The Holy Sacraments, His Divine Works, Sacrament Instituted by Christ, Grace handed down, Love preserve by His Church, Christ's Instrument.

"Get to know Me!"
He tells his friend, keepers, and strangers that he is with his master, goes on carrying His own, while the master has not yet arrive, no one can object nor beat me in this land cause I know my boss so well, and I will tell them that I know him!, [I dont need to train nor hammer this roof, nor check the foundation and floors, this men will not touch me] ...goes on doing things that he only consider, forgetting what his master told them before he left (instructions on.water his plant, pull out the grass, details in keeping The Home, etc) [but his master will know if his temple has improved] ...talking at His back,[ what he is actually resulting > your other works are not needed here boss, i know shortcut, and put this in place, you created this in the first place, i assume this will not shade], but no one can accuse me of this, cause I will tell them, that I know you and I follow you and truly loved you..Thinking, my belief in my boss is the more important thing to do, I'll just wait here and see what will happen to us.

Does he has the full conviction of his loyalty? He who does not follow. What is he lacking? The answers to what is lacking to him is The Truth. His true faith, an incomplete one.

May 10, 2014 at 7:55 am PST
#135  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

When you are born again; You were 1st. born of the Flesh: as explained in Verse 6. Water means flesh birth. You must be Born 2nd. time of the Spirit because you are dead Spiritually.
Ephesians 2:1-3
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. NOTICE NATURE. This is what we received from Adams Fall. We received a SINFUL NATURE. With it you can not enter heaven. you need a Nature change. There is nothing we can do to change our Nature ourselves. So we are Lost and Separated. When we are born again we receive God's Nature ; accepting Jesus's exchange=Our Sins for His Righteousness. We are accepted in the Beloved; sealed by the Holy Spirit; our Old self has past away and our sins ,Past, Present And Future , God will not Remember ever again. We are sanctified completely ;and our spirit, soul, and body be Preserved blameless. - 1st. Thess.5:23 God has done everything He is going to do to provide Salvation for you. It's up to you to get it right. He has provided us an instruction Book that is self explanatory. Why would He give us the Bible and not be able to understand it? Satan Has a bible he wants you to read. He mostly quotes the real thing but throws in a few ( seems Godly) to keep you from the truth.

May 10, 2014 at 9:29 am PST
#136  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

READ THIS: I have been born again when I was baptized.

Oggy: Wow nature change?
Man (us) to sinless, here...

Acceptance that we our sinners and humble ourselves in this journey, is more sound.

"There is nothing we can do to change our Nature ourselves. So we are Lost and Separated"-

Um, do you actually know what you're saying?

Bart: contradictions taking...

"God has done everything He is going to do to provide Salvation for you. It's up to you to get it right."

-Yes. that's it!

Computer guy: Do you know that man, him and me are capable of memorizing the Bible.

your last comment is somehow a bit??.Ha, don't do it then (seems Godly)...

It is not I who can save myself (e.g. my faith alone) but through the power of God, Grace that All We Need, The Holy Sacraments, His Divine Works, Sacrament Instituted by Christ, Grace handed down, Love preserve by His Church, Christ's Instrument.

May 10, 2014 at 10:14 am PST
#137  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

The Church as Christ's Body, the priest as Christ's representative, the sacraments as visible signs of Christ's grace are all inextricably connected in the Catholic

May 14, 2014 at 8:12 am PST
#138  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

“Because it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith; not by anything of your own, but by a gift from God; not by anything that you have done, so that nobody can claim the credit. We are God’s work of art, created in Christ Jesus for the good works which God has already designated to make up our way of life (Ephesians 2: 8-10).”

‘It is not anyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven (Matt 7: 21).”

See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. - James 2:24

When you read scripture in entirety, it becomes more and more clear, that salvation comes not by faith alone,but allowing God's Sacrament, with faith and living a Christian Life as he will finally come again.

May 14, 2014 at 8:52 am PST
#139  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Ged; Your first paragraph is stating it correctly,( Not by anything of your own.) are you saved. Created for Good works. Only Good work's an be done by knowing Jesus as Savior. Any works being done out side of Jesus is called Dead Works. Works without Jesus does not Save you. As you stated works after your saved is what we all should do. James 2:24 your mixing Good works and Dead works. Big difference. Not anyone who say's to me; only the one who does the will of the Father. Only one unforgivable Sin-- Rejecting Jesus.

May 14, 2014 at 3:18 pm PST
#140  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Ged, the problem with Dick is he can not see past his own interpretations. According to him he has the Holy Spirit and we do not as Catholics, therefore we can not see Scripture the way he does. You and I understand that we need God's grace because we can not do it on our own. Dick on the other hand has already done God's job for Him, God doesn't have to judge Dick, he supposedly has a free pass to heaven and can sin as much as he wants with no consequence, just rewards. He has told me three times that I'm going to hell, so not only does he judge himself he judges others according to his private interpretations. He is uncharitable and he has nothing nice to say to any Catholic. If Dick won't listen to Jesus, the Apostles, or the Apostolic Fathers, he will not listen to me and you.

May 14, 2014 at 7:32 pm PST
#141  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Thanks Travis..I always read your comments on this blog and inspire me more of my Catholic are always genuinely kind in sharing and does not spoils the gospel.
I also thank Dick, though he is harsh and unloving to his approach,...through him, we all love more what Catholic defend and love. There is always love in this Church.
How I wish that all would found in full communion in Christ and return to His Home, the Catholic Church. All Christian are invited and welcome, in humbleness.

The Church as Christ's Body, the priest as Christ's representative, the sacraments as visible signs of Christ's grace are all inextricably connected in the Catholic.

God bless us and help us, to go to his one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

May 14, 2014 at 8:25 pm PST
#142  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Chris; 4th. line ,you say We need God's Grace because we can not do it on our own. Perfect. Then why argue about adding our works to our requirement to go to Heaven? It's Jesus only ,nothing to add or take away.
Hebrews 6:1(NKJV)
Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works . If works were important why does this scripture call Works dead and then ask you to repent from them, then you can go on into maturity other wise you will stay a baby Goo- Gooing he rest of your life. Repent means to change your mind and go in the opposite direction. Actually there are six areas to learn before you can move on to maturity. One of the Dead works is adding prayers to release Souls in purgatory. Jesus paid it all.
Ephesians 5:27(NKJV)
that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession Catholics don't know that when Jesus paid for you sins ,He paid for ALL of them; even your future sins; even your unconfessed sins. When you are born again you become Righteous, Blameless, no spot or wrinkle, Holy and without blemish, Sealed with a guarantee of the promise. When God makes a promise he never RENEGES. Yes when you accept Jesus you have been judged already. YES I have a free pass to Heaven. You can to if you would stop reading you Catechism and read the word of God; there is a difference.
John 5:24(NKJV)
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. This is the promise .It's God's voice speaking to you right NOW. "And shall not come into Judgment".
1 Peter 1:3-5(NKJV)
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,
who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Notice an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled, does not fade away, reserved , kept by God's power ready to be revealed at a later date.

May 15, 2014 at 8:48 am PST
#143  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

(Hebrews) The author saw the addressees in danger of apostasy from their Christian faith. This danger was due not to any persecution from outsiders but to a weariness with the demands of Christian life and a growing indifference to their calling (Heb 2:1; 4:14;6:1–12; 10:23–32). The author’s main theme, the priesthood and sacrifice of Jesus (Heb 3–10), is not developed for its own sake but as a means of restoring their lost fervor and strengthening them in their faith. Another important theme of the letter is that of the pilgrimage of the people of God to the heavenly Jerusalem (11:10; 12:1–3,18–29; 13:14). This theme is intimately connected with that of Jesus’ ministry in the heavenly sanctuary (Heb 9:11–10:22).
The author calls this work a “message of encouragement” (Heb 13:22), a designation that is given to a synagogue sermon in Acts 13:15. Hebrews is probably therefore a written homily, to which the author gave an epistolary ending (Heb 13:22–25). The author begins with a reminder of the preexistence, incarnation, and exaltation of Jesus (Heb 1:3) that proclaimed him the climax of God’s word to humanity (Heb 1:1–3). He dwells upon the dignity of the person of Christ, superior to the angels (Heb 1:4–2:2). Christ is God’s final word of salvation communicated (in association with accredited witnesses to his teaching: cf. Heb 2:3–4) not merely by word but through his suffering in the humanity common to him and to all others (Heb 2:5–16). This enactment of salvation went beyond the pattern known to Moses, faithful prophet of God’s word though he was, for Jesus as high priest expiated sin and was faithful to God with the faithfulness of God’s own Son (Heb 2:17–3:6).
Just as the infidelity of the people thwarted Moses’ efforts to save them, so the infidelity of any Christian may thwart God’s plan in Christ (3:6–4:13). Christians are to reflect that it is their humanity that Jesus took upon himself, with all its defects save sinfulness, and that he bore the burden of it until death out of obedience to God. God declared this work of his Son to be the cause of salvation for all (Heb 4:14–5:10). Although Christians recognize this fundamental teaching, they may grow weary of it and of its implications, and therefore require other reflections to stimulate their faith (5:11–6:20).
Therefore, the author presents to the readers for their reflection the everlasting priesthood of Christ (Heb 7:1–28), a priesthood that fulfills the promise of the Old Testament (Heb 8:1–13). It also provides the meaning God ultimately intended in the sacrifices of the Old Testament (Heb 9:1–28): these pointed to the unique sacrifice of Christ, which alone obtains forgiveness of sins (Heb 10:1–18). The trial of faith experienced by the readers should resolve itself through their consideration of Christ’s ministry in the heavenly sanctuary and his perpetual intercession there on their behalf (Heb 7:25; 8:1–13). They should also be strengthened by the assurance of his foreordained parousia, and by the fruits of faith that they have already enjoyed (Heb 10:19–39).
It is in the nature of faith to recognize the reality of what is not yet seen and is the object of hope, and the saints of the Old Testament give striking example of that faith (Heb 11:1–40). The perseverance to which the author exhorts the readers is shown forth in the early life of Jesus. Despite the afflictions of his ministry and the supreme trial of his suffering and death, he remained confident of the triumph that God would bring him (Heb 12:1–3). The difficulties of human life have meaning when they are accepted as God’s discipline (Heb 12:4–13), and if Christians persevere in fidelity to the word in which they have believed, they are assured of possessing forever the unshakable kingdom of God (Heb 12:14–29).
The letter concludes with specific moral commandments (Heb 13:1–17), in the course of which the author recalls again his central theme of the sacrifice of Jesus and the courage needed to associate oneself with it in faith (Heb 13:9–16).

18Pray for us, for we are confident that we have a clear conscience, wishing to act rightly in every respect.19I especially ask for your prayers that I may be restored to you very soon.
20* May the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep by the blood of the eternal covenant, Jesus our Lord,m21furnish you with all that is good, that you may do his will. May he carry out in you what is pleasing to him through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever [and ever]. Amen.
22Brothers, I ask you to bear with this message of encouragement, for I have written to you rather briefly.23I must let you know that our brother Timothy has been set free. If he comes soon, I shall see you together with him.n24Greetings to all your leaders and to all the holy ones. Those from Italy send you greetings.25Grace be with all of you.o

Faith is God’s Gift and God’s will, not of ours. To act rightly, obeying God’s commandment shows the presence of this Gift in us.

Ephesians is the great Pauline letter about the church. It deals, however, not so much with a congregation in the city of Ephesus in Asia Minor as with the worldwide church, the head of which is Christ (Eph 4:15), the purpose of which is to be the instrument for making God’s plan of salvation known throughout the universe (Eph 3:9–10). Yet this ecclesiology is anchored in God’s saving love, shown in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:4–10), and the whole of redemption is rooted in the plan and accomplishment of the triune God (Eph 1:3–14). The language is often that of doxology (Eph 1:3–14) and prayer (cf. Eph 1:15–23; 3:14–19), indeed of liturgy and hymns (Eph 3:20–21;5:14).
The majestic chapters of Ephesians emphasize the unity in the church of Christ that has come about for both Jews and Gentiles within God’s household (Eph 1:15–2:22, especially Eph 2:11–22) and indeed the “seven unities” of church, Spirit, hope; one Lord, faith, and baptism; and the one God (Eph 4:4–6). Yet the concern is not with the church for its own sake but rather as the means for mission in the world (Eph 3:1–4:24). The gifts Christ gives its members are to lead to growth and renewal (Eph 4:7–24). Ethical admonition is not lacking either; all aspects of human life and relationships are illumined by the light of Christ (Eph 4:25–6:20).

21So that you also may have news of me and of what I am doing, Tychicus, my beloved brother and trustworthy minister in the Lord, will tell you everything.q22I am sending him to you for this very purpose, so that you may know about us and that he may encourage your hearts.r
23Peace be to the brothers, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.24Grace be with all who love our Lord Jesus Christ in immortality.s

The apostolic church, as Christ Body, is the means for mission in the world, instrument for God’s plan of salvation. We are called to be holy.
Love comes from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. The Peace refers to the Peace of God. For with Peace and Love, Faith comes into reality. Thus, we can say all aspects of life and relationship are illumined by the light of Christ.

* Jesus answered and said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, a son cannot do anything on his own, but only what he sees his father doing;k for what he does, his son will do also.20For the Father loves his Son and shows him everything that he himself does, and he will show him greater works than these, so that you may be amazed.l21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives life,* so also does the Son give life to whomever he wishes.m22Nor does the Father judge anyone, but he has given all judgment* to his Son,n23so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.24Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes in the one who sent me has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.o25Amen, amen, I say to you, the hour is coming and is now here when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.p26For just as the Father has life in himself, so also he gave to his Son the possession of life in himself.q27And he gave him power to exercise judgment, because he is the Son of Man.r28* Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voices29and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.t
30“I cannot do anything on my own; I judge as I hear, and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will but the will of the one who sent me.u

Amen. This refers to the Works of the Son. That by believing in totality all of Him, His Work and teaching - His Holy Church- as Christ’s Body and teaching authority, His Apostles, His Priest as Christ’s Representatives, Deeds, Faith , Hope, Charity, Sacraments, Prayers, Blessed Virgin Mary- Mother of God and our Mother and, all his angels and saints– His Life, Death, and Resurrection> we can finally access the Gift. Half belief is lack of faith. That all of this belong to Christ, God’s Gift and Graces. To believe in Him, is to be with Him, the Light, where no darkness is hidden. And thus never to neglect Jesus Life and Death and Resurrection all inextricably connected and integrated.

Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voices29and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.t

Hear this word and those who hear his word will live as he believes.
Our Life, Death and Resurrection are all also inextricably connected and integrated.

This letter (1 Peter) begins with an address by Peter to Christian communities located in five provinces of Asia Minor (1 Pt 1:1), including areas evangelized by Paul (Acts 16:6–7;18:23). Christians there are encouraged to remain faithful to their standards of belief and conduct in spite of threats of persecution. Numerous allusions in the letter suggest that the churches addressed were largely of Gentile composition (1 Pt 1:14,18; 2:9–10; 4:3–4), though considerable use is made of the Old Testament (1 Pt 1:24;2:6–7, 9–10, 22; 3:10–12).
The contents following the address both inspire and admonish these “chosen sojourners” (1 Pt 1:1) who, in seeking to live as God’s people, feel an alienation from their previous religious roots and the society around them. Appeal is made to Christ’s resurrection and the future hope it provides (1 Pt 1:3–5) and to the experience of baptism as new birth (1 Pt 1:3, 23–25; 3:21). The suffering and death of Christ serve as both source of salvation and example (1 Pt 1:19; 2:21–25; 3:18). What Christians are in Christ, as a people who have received mercy and are to proclaim and live according to God’s call (1 Pt 2:9–10), is repeatedly spelled out for all sorts of situations in society (1 Pt 2:11–17), work (even as slaves, 1 Pt 2:18–20), the home (1 Pt 3:1–7), and general conduct (1 Pt 3:8–12; 4:1–11). But over all hangs the possibility of suffering as a Christian (1 Pt 3:13–17). In 1 Pt 4:12–19 persecution is described as already occurring, so that some have supposed the letter was addressed both to places where such a “trial by fire” was already present and to places where it might break out.

Let us all remain faithful to their standards of belief and conduct in spite of threats of persecution. To believe carries Cost. But Living in God’s command, echoes Life.

James:2b Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you encounter various trials,*3for you know that the testing* of your faith produces perseverance.4And let perseverance be perfect, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.5But if any of you lacks wisdom,* he should ask God who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly, and he will be given it.c6But he should ask in faith, not doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed about by the wind.d7For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord,8since he is a man of two minds, unstable in all his ways.
9The brother in lowly circumstances* should take pride in his high standing,e10and the rich one in his lowliness, for he will pass away “like the flower of the field.”f11For the sun comes up with its scorching heat and dries up the grass, its flower droops, and the beauty of its appearance vanishes. So will the rich person fade away in the midst of his pursuits.

James.12g Blessed is the man who perseveres in temptation,* for when he has been proved he will receive the crown of life that he promised to those who love him.13* No one experiencing temptation should say, “I am being tempted by God”; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he himself tempts no one.h14Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.15Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death.
16* Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers:17all good giving and every perfect gift* is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no alteration or shadow caused by change.18i He willed to give us birth by the word of truth that we may be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.*

James1:19Know this, my dear brothers: everyone should be quick to hear,* slow to speak, slow to wrath,j20for the wrath of a man does not accomplish the righteousness of God.k21Therefore, put away all filth and evil excess and humbly welcome the word that has been planted in you and is able to save your souls.l
22Be doers of the word and not hearers only, deluding yourselves.m23For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his own face in a mirror.24He sees himself, then goes off and promptly forgets what he looked like.25But the one who peers into the perfect law* of freedom and perseveres, and is not a hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, such a one shall be blessed in what he does.n
26* If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue* but deceives his heart, his religion is vain.o27Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows* in their affliction and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

James2:1My brothers, show no partiality as you adhere to the faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ.2For if a man with gold rings on his fingers and in fine clothes comes into your assembly, and a poor person in shabby clothes also comes in,3and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say, “Sit here, please,” while you say to the poor one, “Stand there,” or “Sit at my feet,”4have you not made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil designs?*
5Listen, my beloved brothers. Did not God choose those who are poor* in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom that he promised to those who love him?a6But you dishonored the poor person. Are not the rich oppressing you? And do they themselves not haul you off to court?7Is it not they who blaspheme the noble name that was invoked over you?b8However, if you fulfill the royal* law according to the scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well.c9But if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors.d10For whoever keeps the whole law, but falls short in one particular, has become guilty in respect to all of it.e11For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not kill.”fEven if you do not commit adultery but kill, you have become a transgressor of the law.12g So speak and so act as people who will be judged by the law of freedom.*13For the judgment is merciless to one who has not shown mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment.

James 2:14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?i15If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?j17So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18Indeed someone might say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.19You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.20Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar?k22You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works.23Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called “the friend of God.”l24See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.25And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route?m26For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

It is Faith and Work.

Not Faith, then work. Not Faith alone, then works. Not faith alone. It is very clear.

Seven great means of grace corresponding to the principal needs of the supernatural life:
1. Birth through baptism (1 Peter 3:21, Acts 2:38, 2:39, Acts 22:16, John 3:5, Matt. 19:14, Luke 18:15–16, Col. 2:11–12, Rom. 6:3-6, Acts 16:15, 1 Cor. 1:16, Matthew 3:13-17, Mark 1:9-11, Luke 3:21, 22, John 1:29-33, Matthew 28:19, 20, Mark 1:4, 5, Mark 16:16, Acts 8:35-38, Acts 16:31, 33, 1 Corinthians 12:13, Galatians 3:27)
2. Growth through confirmation (Acts 8:14–17, 9:17, 19:5-6, and Hebrews 6:2; Psalm 37:5-6; Psalm 27:1; Psalm 46:1 ; Psalm 55:22 ; Proverbs 30:5 ; Joshua 1:9; Psalm 23:1; Matthew 6:33; Luke 11:28; Matthew 21:22 ; Matthew 28:19-20; John 3:16; John 8:12; John 8:31-32; John 14:6 ; John 14:27 ; John 15:5 ; Acts 16:31; Hebrews 13:5 ; I John 1:8-9; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Col 3:17; Romans 1:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Eph. 1:13; Eph. 4:30; John 6:27; Rev. 9:4; Rev. 14:1 and 22:4)
3. Nourishment through the Eucharist (Isaiah 62:8-9; Genesis 14:18; Hebrews 7:17; Exodus 25:30, Exodus 35:13, Exodus 39:36, Numbers 4:7, 1 Samuel 21:6, 1 Kings 7:48, 2 Chronicles 4:19, 1 Maccabees 1:22, 2 Maccabees 10:3, Matthew 12:4, Mark 2:26, Luke 6:4, & Hebrews 9:2; Luke 22:19-20; 1 Kings 19:5-8; Exodus 12:7-8; Exodus 16:4; 1 Corinthians 10:3-5; 1 Corinthians 15:45; Acts 10:39-41; John 2; Luke 5:34-35; Revelation 19:9; Revelation 3:20; Revelation 2:17; 2 Corinthians 5:7; John 6:11; Matthew 26:26-28; Exodus 24:8; Isaiah 9:20, Jeremiah 46:10, and Deuteronomy 32:42; Mark 4:34 John 6: 30-66; Exodus 3:14; Luke 8:11; 1 Corinthians 10:16-21; Malachi 1:11; 1 Corinthians 11:23-30; on the road to Emmaus
4. Medicine through penance (( Luke 13:3; Acts 17:30-31; Acts 2:38; 1 John 1:8-9; John 20:21-23; 2 Corinthians 5:18-19; Matt. 9:6; Mark 2:10; Luke 5:24; Matt. 18:18; 2 Cor. 2:10; James 5:15-16; Lev. 5:4-6; 19:21-22; Acts 19:18; Matt. 3:6; Mark 1:5; 1 Tim. 6:12; Num. 5:7; 2 Sam. 12:14; Neh. 9:2-3; Sir. 4:26; Baruch 1:14; 1 John 5:16-17; Luke 12:47-48)
5. Journey of the soul through anointing ( James 5:14-15; Mark 6:7, 12-13; Acts 28:8; Acts 5:12; Acts 5:15-16; 8:7; 19:11-12; Mark 6:13;)
6. Priesthood through ordination (Matt. 23:9; Matt. 23:8; Judges 17:10; 18:19; Eph. 3:14-15; Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13; 1 Cor. 4:15; 1 Cor. 4:17; 2 Cor. 12:14; Phil. 2:22; 1 Thess. 2:11; 1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3; ***** 1:4; Philemon 10; Heb. 12:7,9; 1 Peter 5:13; 1 John 2:1,13,14; 1 John 2:1,18,28; 3:18; 5:21; 3 John 4; 1 Macc. 2:65; Matt. 3:9; Luke 3:8; Mark 11:10; Luke 1:32; Luke 1:55; Luke 1:73; Luke 16:24,30; John 4:12; John 7:22; John 8:56; Acts 3:13,25; 5:30; Acts 4:25; Acts 7:11-12, 15,19,38,44-45,51-52; Acts 7:32; Acts 13:17,32,36; 24:14; 26:6; 28:17,25; Acts 22:3; Acts 22:14; Rom. 4:1; Rom. 4:16-17; Rom. 9:10; 1 Cor. 10:1; Gal. 1:14; 2 Tim. 1:3; Heb. 1:1; Heb. 3:9; Heb. 8:9; James 2:21; 1 Peter 1:18; 2 Peter 3:4; Matt. 15:4-5; 19:19; Mark 7:10-12; Luke 18:20; Eph. 6:2,4; Matt. 10:21; 35,37; Mark 13:12 ; Matt. 19:5; Mark 10:7,19; Matt. 19:29; Mark 10:29-30; Matt. 21:31; Luke 6:23,26; Luke 11:11; Luke 11:47-48; Luke 14:26; Luke 15:12,17-18,20-22,27-29; Luke 16:27; John 6:49,58; Matt. 19:11-12; Matt. 19:29; Matt. 22:30; 1 Cor 7:1; 1 Cor. 7:7; 1 Cor. 7:27; 1 Cor. 7:32-33, 38; 1 Tim. 3:2; 1 Tim. 4:3; 1 Tim. 5:9-12; 2 Tim. 2:3-4; Rev. 14:4; Isaiah 56:3-7; Jer. 16:1-4; Gen. 3:15; Luke 1:26-55; John 19:26; Rev. 12:1; Judges 17:10; 18:19; Mark 16:9; Luke 7: 37-50; John 8:3-11; Mark 14:17,20; Luke 22:14; Gen. 14:10; Heb. 5:6,10; 6:20; 7:15,17; Gen. 22:9-13; Matt. 26:26; Mark 14:22; Luke 22:19; Mark 3:13; John 20:22; 1 Cor. 14:34-35; 1 Tim. 2:12; Rom. 16:1-2; Luke 2:36-37)
7. Christian family through matrimony (Mark 10:2-12; Romans 7:1-3; 1 Corinthians 7:10-16; Ephesians 5:22-33; Hebrews 13:4)

The Church as Christ's body, the Priest as Christ's representative, Christ teachings -Faith, Hope and Love, and the sacraments as Christ's gift are integrated, all of, entirety and unifying in Catholic.

We are all part of the journey, this is a life-long process. To see it as one time-event, is to ignore rest of the Testament books, and is unbiblical. Faith, Hope, Family, Work and Love are interrelated and integrated. To live carrying the Cross, Jesus opens the gates of heaven; all are to walk what Christ, Our God – has all commanded.

1If I speak in human and angelic tongues* but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.a2And if I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.b3If I give away everything I own, and if I hand my body over so that I may boast but do not have love, I gain nothing.c
4* Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, [love] is not pompous, it is not inflated,d5it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury,e6it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.7It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.f
8* Love never fails. If there are prophecies, they will be brought to nothing; if tongues, they will cease; if knowledge, it will be brought to nothing.9For we know partially and we prophesy partially,10but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.11When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.12At present we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, but then face to face. At present I know partially; then I shall know fully, as I am fully known.g13* So faith, hope, love remain, these three;h but the greatest of these is love.

Love never fails (1 Cor 13:8), then develops the permanence of love in contrast to the charisms (1 Cor 13:9–12), and finally asserts love’s superiority even over the other “theological virtues” (1 Cor 13:13).
[13:13] In speaking of love, Paul is led by spontaneous association to mention faith and hope as well. They are already a well-known triad (cf. 1 Thes 1:3), three interrelated (cf. 1 Cor 13:7) features of Christian life, more fundamental than any particular charism. The greatest…is love: love is operative even within the other members of the triad (7), so that it has a certain primacy among them. Or, if the perspective is temporal, love will remain (cf. “never fails,” 1 Cor 13:8) even when faith has yielded to sight and hope to possession.
These three are interrelated features of Christian Life. Thus the proper worship of God is faith, hope and love.
Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ -- St. Jerome
Not 100 in the United States hate the Roman Catholic Church, but millions hate what they mistakenly think the Roman Catholic Church is. -- Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
Those who commit these types of scandals are guility of the spiritual equivalent of murder, but I', here among you to prevent something far worst for you. While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal- who allow scandals to destroy faith- are guilty of spiritual suicide. -- St. Francis de Sales
The proof of love is in the works. Where love exists, it works great things. But when it ceases to act, it ceases to exist. -- Pope St. Gregory the Great
If there be a true way that leads to the Everlasting Kingdom, it is most certainly that of suffering, patiently endured. -- St. Colette
When shall it be that we shall taste the sweetness of the Divine Will in all that happens to us, considering in everything only His good pleasure, by whom it is certain that adversity is sent with as much love as prosperity, and as much for our good? When shall we cast ourselves undeservedly into the arms of our most loving Father in Heaven, leaving to Him the care of ourselves and of our affairs, and reserving only the desire of pleasing Him, and of serving Him well in all that we can? -- St. Jane Frances de Chantal
"Charity may be a very short word, but with its tremendous meaning of pure love, it sums up man's entire relation to God and to his neighbor." -- St Aelred of Rievaulx
Not the goods of the world, but God. Not riches, but God. Not honors, but God. Not distinction, but God. Not dignities, but God. Not advancement, but God. God always and in everything. -- St. Vincent Pallotti
Whatever you do, think not of yourself, but of God. -- St. Vincent Ferrer
Love consumes us only in the measure of our self-surrender. -- St. Therese of Lisieux
Charity unites us to God... There is nothing mean in charity, nothing arrogant. Charity knows no schism, does not rebel, does all things in concord. In charity all the elect of God have been made perfect. -- Pope St. Clement I
My daughter, I see more Pharisees among Christians than there were around Pilate. -- St. Margaret of Cortona
Let us therefore give ourselves to God with a great desire to begin to live thus, and beg Him to destroy in us the life of the world of sin, and to establish His life within us. -- St. John Eudes
It is by the path of love, which is charity, that God draws near to man, and man to God. But where charity is not found, God cannot dwell. If, then, we possess charity, we possess God, for "God is Charity" (1John 4:8) -- St. Albert the Great
My confidence is placed in God who does not need our help for accomplishing his designs. Our single endeavor should be to give ourselves to the work and to be faithful to him, and not to spoil his work by our shortcomings. -- St. Isaac Jogues

May 22, 2014 at 7:36 am PST
#144  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

You have beaten all the dust off your bible after removing it from your closet shelf.
2 Peter 3:16
Paul also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You say God does not need our help for accomplishing His design. God could do that but he always uses Man to work his will. God does not want any one to go to hell; but He lets man choose too use his free will to accept Jesus and does not interfere . If you don't follow God's instruction you will not make it. Sooooo it's important to find out for yourself. Everyone is susceptible to error and false teaching. Satan comes to kill, steal, and destroy.

May 23, 2014 at 5:24 pm PST
#145  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama which are some things hard to understand, which UNTAUGHT AND UNSTABLE people twist to their OWN destruction, as they do also the rest of Scripture.

Who taught you Dick? Sounds like a stern warning against self interpretation.

Why stop there...

2 Peter 1:20 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation.

St. Paul also tells us to hold fast to written and oral tradition. Christ tells us the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth. He also tells us where two brothers need to take their disagreements, it wasn't to scripture alone, it was to the Church!

The bottom line, Christ gave mission to the Church to bring the Gospel to the entire world. It is individuals who twist and destort the Word of God.

You are not the pillar and foundation of the truth Dick, you are the one who will not listen to the church, the one Christ said should be treated as a publican and tax collector.

May 24, 2014 at 6:36 am PST
#146  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

2nd. Peter 1:20 states that No PROPHECY of scripture is a matter of personal interpretation; which is true. Most all of Scripture is for reading and understanding. I Read Scripture and with the holy Spirit living in me ( The Spirit of Jesus) The One who wrote the Bible ; can lead me into all truth.

May 24, 2014 at 2:53 pm PST
#147  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

If prophecy is not a matter of personal interpretation then the prophecies are a matter of the Church, which is why Christ tells us the Church is the pillar and foundation of the Truth. I too read Scripture with the Holy Spirit living in me. The One who wrote the Bible AND founded a Church leads me into all Truth. You fall short on the full revelation from God if you separate the Word of God from the Church in which it came from. Jesus do not pass out Scripture and Scripture was not apart from the Church.

May 25, 2014 at 11:12 am PST
#148  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

You are covering a lie with another lie; as liars have to do because the truth erases lies. The word of God never came thru the Church ( man yes, Organization No.) Most Scripture came before the church . Epistles is the New Testament instruction for today. Heb. 8:13. Gospels were before the New testament Acts 2:1.

May 25, 2014 at 5:36 pm PST
#149  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Oh my gosh Dick! Which one of the authors of NT Scripture was not a member of the Church established by Christ? St. Peter? St. Paul? St. Luke? St Mark? NT Scripture did not come before the Church! Scripture wasn't written until well after Christ established the Church! As a matter of FACT not one word of NT Scripture was written in the lifetime of Christ! Yet the Church was founded in the lifetime of Christ! Go ahead Dick, name one author of Scripture who was apart from the Church founded by Christ! Name one who opposed the Church! No wonder you have such a hard time interpreting Scripture, you can't even get historical facts straight.

May 25, 2014 at 7:25 pm PST
#150  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Historical fact: Old testament Before the Church age. Pentecost was the beginning of the Church age. Act 2:1 Jesus had to die to activate Church age. Jesus said if I don't go back to my Father I can't send the Holy spirit ( beginning of church age.) The Gospel's are Books about Jesus and his ministry while on this Earth, time before the church began. The church was not founded in the lifetime of Christ. As you THINK it was. No one had God's plan until Paul received it after His ( Knocked of his horse experience) and Received new Revelation how the Church was to be. Acts is the history of the 1st. century Church. (body of believers) They meet in Homes, Caves, secret places, etc. The gospels are placed before acts in the New testament making people think that they're part of new Testament; there not; they're old testament . The establishment of the Church came from Heaven thru Sending The Holy Spirit to us. Jesus is in heaven now, working through His Spirit to accomplish His plan .

May 26, 2014 at 8:33 am PST
#151  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

74 God “desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth”:29 that is, of Christ Jesus.30 Christ must be proclaimed to all nations and individuals, so that this revelation may reach to the ends of the earth: (851)
God graciously arranged that the things he had once revealed for the salvation of all peoples should remain in their entirety, throughout the ages, and be transmitted to all generations.31
I. The Apostolic Tradition
75 “Christ the Lord, in whom the entire Revelation of the most high God is summed up, commanded the apostles to preach the Gospel, which had been promised beforehand by the prophets, and which he fulfilled in his own person and promulgated with his own lips. In preaching the Gospel, they were to communicate the gifts of God to all men. This Gospel was to be the source of all saving truth and moral discipline.”32 (171)
In the apostolic preaching...
76 In keeping with the Lord’s command, the Gospel was handed on in two ways: — orally “by the apostles who handed on, by the spoken word of their preaching, by the example they gave, by the institutions they established, what they themselves had received—whether from the lips of Christ, from his way of life and his works, or whether they had learned it at the prompting of the Holy Spirit”;33 — in writing “by those apostles and other men associated with the apostles who, under the inspiration of the same Holy Spirit, committed the message of salvation to writing.”34
...continued in apostolic succession
77 “In order that the full and living Gospel might always be preserved in the Church the apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them ‘their own position of teaching authority.’”35 Indeed, “the apostolic preaching, which is expressed in a special way in the inspired books, was to be preserved in a continuous line of succession until the end of time.”36 (861)
78 This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition, since it is distinct from Sacred Scripture, though closely connected to it. Through Tradition, “the Church, in her doctrine, life, and worship perpetuates and transmits to every generation all that she herself is, all that she believes.”37 “The sayings of the holy Fathers are a witness to the life-giving presence of this Tradition, showing how its riches are poured out in the practice and life of the Church, in her belief and her prayer.”38 (174, 1124, 2651)
79 The Father’s self-communication made through his Word in the Holy Spirit, remains present and active in the Church: “God, who spoke in the past, continues to converse with the Spouse of his beloved Son. And the Holy Spirit, through whom the living voice of the Gospel rings out in the Church—and through her in the world—leads believers to the full truth, and makes the Word of Christ dwell in them in all its richness.”39
II. The Relationship Between Tradition and Sacred Scripture
One common source...
80 “Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing and move towards the same goal.”40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own “always, to the close of the age.”41
...two distinct modes of transmission
81 “Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.”42 (113) “And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its entirety the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit. It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth, they may faithfully preserve, expound, and spread it abroad by their preaching.”43
82 As a result the Church, to whom the transmission and interpretation of Revelation is entrusted, “does not derive her certainty about all revealed truths from the holy Scriptures alone. Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.”44
Apostolic Tradition and ecclesial traditions
83 The Tradition here in question comes from the apostles and hands on what they received from Jesus’ teaching and example and what they learned from the Holy Spirit. The first generation of Christians did not yet have a written New Testament, and the New Testament itself demonstrates the process of living Tradition. (1202, 2041, 2684) Tradition is to be distinguished from the various theological, disciplinary, liturgical, or devotional traditions, born in the local churches over time. These are the particular forms, adapted to different places and times, in which the great Tradition is expressed. In the light of Tradition, these traditions can be retained, modified or even abandoned under the guidance of the Church’s magisterium.
III. The Interpretation of the Heritage of Faith
The heritage of faith entrusted to the whole of the Church
84 The apostles entrusted the “Sacred deposit” of the faith (the depositum fidei),45 contained in Sacred Scripture and Tradition, to the whole of the Church. “By adhering to [this heritage] the entire holy people, united to its pastors, remains always faithful to the teaching of the apostles, to the brotherhood, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. So, in maintaining, practicing, and professing the faith that has been handed on, there should be a remarkable harmony between the bishops and the faithful.”46 (857, 871, 2033)
The Magisterium of the Church
85 “The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living, teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ.”47 This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome. (888-892, 2032-2040) 86 “Yet this Magisterium is not superior to the Word of God, but is its servant. It teaches only what has been handed on to it. At the divine command and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it listens to this devotedly, guards it with dedication, and expounds it faithfully. All that it proposes for belief as being divinely revealed is drawn from this single deposit of faith.”48 (688) 87 Mindful of Christ’s words to his apostles: “He who hears you, hears me,”49 the faithful receive with docility the teachings and directives that their pastors give them in different forms. (1548, 2037)
The dogmas of the faith
88 The Church’s Magisterium exercises the authority it holds from Christ to the fullest extent when it defines dogmas, that is, when it proposes, in a form obliging the Christian people to an irrevocable adherence of faith, truths contained in divine Revelation or also when it proposes, in a definitive way, truths having a necessary connection with these. (888-892, 2032-2040)89 There is an organic connection between our spiritual life and the dogmas. Dogmas are lights along the path of faith; they illuminate it and make it secure. Conversely, if our life is upright, our intellect and heart will be open to welcome the light shed by the dogmas of faith.50 (2625) 90 The mutual connections between dogmas, and their coherence, can be found in the whole of the Revelation of the mystery of Christ.51 “In Catholic doctrine there exists an order or ‘hierarchy’ of truths, since they vary in their relation to the foundation of the Christian faith.”52 (114, 158, 234)
The supernatural sense of faith
91 All the faithful share in understanding and handing on revealed truth. They have received the anointing of the Holy Spirit, who instructs them53 and guides them into all truth.54 (737) 92 “The whole body of the faithful... cannot err in matters of belief. This characteristic is shown in the supernatural appreciation of faith (sensus fidei) on the part of the whole people, when, ‘from the bishops to the last of the faithful,’ they manifest a universal consent in matters of faith and morals.”55 (785) 93 “By this appreciation of the faith, aroused and sustained by the Spirit of truth, the People of God, guided by the sacred teaching authority (Magisterium),... receives... the faith, once for all delivered to the saints.... The People unfailingly adheres to this faith, penetrates it more deeply with right judgment, and applies it more fully in daily life.”56 (889)

May 27, 2014 at 5:27 am PST
#152  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

All Cults preach and teach their own written material. I didn't see one reference to the Holy Scripture.
Matthew 23:24-28
Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
“Woe to you, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
Blind, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.
“Woe to you, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.
Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

May 27, 2014 at 11:41 am PST
#153  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Matthew 7:15 Watch out for false prophets.

False prophets have no apostolic succession and oppose Christ's Church.

May 27, 2014 at 8:10 pm PST
#154  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

You are writing your own material every time you make a post Dick. Are you not man? So therefore it is man made material so we have to reject it according to your standards. No problem with rejecting the gospel of Dick here.

May 27, 2014 at 8:24 pm PST
#155  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Travis is right. You keep on making things that you can interpret correctly the Scripture. But in fact, you lack the credibility in authorship, in appointment, and in standards. Remember that this Bible, is a historical evidence of the existence of Christ and the proof of the living Church. When you read the Bible, you only read it, and make interpretation, but as a matter of fact, the evidence of history is unchangeable and this history is about Christ, the Head of the Church and His Living Church. Regardless, of how you twist it, it will not change. The Church that Christ build is commissioned to spread the word of God and God's plan of salvation, and leading them into this truth. Also, by way we present and read, it shows what our heart truly is. Travis, Tim, David and other faithful Catholic had said it correctly. Dick your world -profanity and disbelief and hypocrisy, shows only your heart to the matter. Also, remember it is the apostles of Christ, guided by the Holy Spirit and was present in Christ, that nurtured the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the will of God, and not founded by anyone outside of Him. And also, the Scripture is the product of Christ love and written by the same apostles that i'am referring to. So the Apostles and those they appointed have the scope of the Scripture. Scripture then is within the Apostolic Tradition. To deny the source and truthfully what it present, is to fall into fallacies and errors. How many times will you not listen. You keep on repeating and repeating, because you do not listen. I have read the whole posts, and i'm already convinced by the debate that Tim Staples presentation were right. Argument must both be reasonable and faithful, coupled with charity and thus without scorn.
Matthew 22:34-46.. We are to follow the "law of Christ".
We do not want to promote, more Pharisees among Christians, than there were around Pilate.
Also read letter of James. May God bless you and enlighten you.

May 27, 2014 at 10:48 pm PST
#156  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Galatians 3:24-25
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. Once you have received Jesus you don't need the LAW carved in stone. I am under a new law.
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. This is the Law of Christ you're referring to. This Law in Under Grace, written on your heart. I dare to burst your bubble; Jesus was not totally God when on the Earth. Jesus studied the old testament before His 3 yr. ministry begun. Why? He spent Time Praying to the Father. Why ? He said multiple times that what you see me do; it's the father that is doing it. Really! He received revelation from his Father. Why? His Father ANOINTED Him with the Holy Ghost and with POWER who went about HEALING all who were oppressed by the Devil. Why the anointing? His whole life was relying on the Father and the Holy Ghost. Why?
Philippians 2:5-11
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Jesus had to later appear to Paul on the Damascus Rd. to Receive Revelation about The Age of Grace. This is where most Christians miss it. it's about Mercy not Judgment; Grace not Law; Making the Law of sin and death obsolete. Having a changed nature; Holy Spirit living in you. etc.

May 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm PST
#157  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Autobiographically, the letter gives us Paul’s own accounts of how he came to faith (Gal 1:15–24), the agreement in “the truth of the gospel” (Gal 2:5, 14) that he shared with the Jewish Christian leaders in Jerusalem, James, Cephas, and John (Gal 2:1–10), and the rebuke he had to deliver to Cephas in Antioch for inconsistency, contrary to the gospel, on the issue of table fellowship in the racially mixed church of Jewish and Gentile Christians in Antioch (Gal 2:11–14; cf. Gal 2:15–21). At the conclusion of the letter (Gal 6:11–18), Paul wrote in his own hand (cf. 2 Thes 3:17–18) a vivid summary of the message to the Galatians.
In his vigorous emphasis on the absolute preeminence of Christ and his cross as God’s way to salvation and holiness, Paul stresses Christian freedom and the ineffectiveness of the Mosaic law for gaining divine favor and blessings (Gal 3:19–29). The pious Jew saw in the law a way established by God to win divine approval by a life of meticulous observance of ritual, social, and moral regulations. But Paul’s profound insight into the higher designs of God in Christ led him to understand and welcome the priority of promise and faith (shown in the experience of Abraham, Gal 3:6–18) and the supernatural gifts of the Spirit (Gal 3:2–5; 5:16–6:10). His enthusiasm for this new vision of the life of grace in Christ and of the uniquely salvific role of Christ’s redemptive death on the cross shines through this whole letter.
Galatians 6 -Life in the Community of Christ.*
Brothers, even if a person is caught in some transgression, you who are spiritual should correct that one in a gentle spirit, looking to yourself, so that you also may not be tempted.a
Bear one another’s burdens,b and so you will fulfill the law of Christ.*
c For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he is deluding himself.
* Each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason to boast with regard to himself alone, and not with regard to someone else;
for each will bear his own load.d

e One who is being instructed in the word should share all good things with his instructor.*
Make no mistake: God is not mocked, for a person will reap only what he sows,
because the one who sows for his flesh will reap corruption from the flesh, but the one who sows for the spirit will reap eternal life from the spirit.f
Let us not grow tired of doing good, for in due time we shall reap our harvest, if we do not give up.g
So then, while we have the opportunity, let us do good to all,h but especially to those who belong to the family of the faith.*
Final Appeal.*
See with what large letters* I am writing to you in my own hand!i
* It is those who want to make a good appearance in the flesh who are trying to compel you to have yourselves circumcised, only that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.j
Not even those having themselves circumcised* observe the law themselves; they only want you to be circumcised so that they may boast of your flesh.
But may I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which* the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.k
For neither does circumcision mean anything, nor does uncircumcision,l but only a new creation.*
Peace and mercy be to all who follow this rule* and to the Israel of God.m
From now on, let no one make troubles for me; for I bear the marks of Jesus* on my body.n
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.o
* [6:1–10] The ethical exhortations begun at Gal 5:1 continue with a variety of admonitions to the community (brothers: see note on Gal 1:2). Nearly every sentence contains a separate item of practical advice; the faith and freedom of the gospel underlie each maxim. Tensions and temptation within communal life have previously been addressed in Gal 5:15, 26 and Gal 6:1 continues with a case in which a person is caught in some transgression such as those in Gal 5:19–21; cf. Gal 2:17.
* [6:2] The law of Christ: cf. Rom 8:2; 1 Cor 9:21; Gal 5:14. The principle of love for others is meant. To bear one another’s burdens is to “serve one another through love” (Gal 5:13).
* [6:4–5] Self-examination is the cure for self-deception. Compare what you are with what you were before, and give the glory to God; cf. Rom 6:19–22. Load: used elsewhere of a soldier’s pack. Correcting one’s own conduct avoids burdening others with it.
* [6:6] Implies oral instruction in the faith by catechists; these are to be remunerated for their service; cf. Rom 15:27.
* [6:10] The family of the faith: the Christian household or church. Doing good has a universal object (to all), but the local community makes specific the reality of those to be served.
* [6:11–18] A postscript in Paul’s own hand, as was his practice (see 1 Cor 16:21; 2 Thes 3:17). Paul summarizes his appeal against his opponents (Gal 6:12–13), then returns to his message of glorying in the cross, not in circumcision, as the means of salvation (Gal 6:14–15; cf. Gal 5:11). A benediction follows at Gal 6:16. In the polemical spirit that the attack on his apostleship called forth (Gal 1:11–2:21), Paul reasserts his missionary credentials (Gal 6:17) before giving a final benediction (Gal 6:18).
* [6:12–15] The Jewish Christian opponents wished not to be persecuted, possibly by Jews. But since Judaism seems to have had a privileged status as a religion in the Roman empire, circumcised Christians might, if taken as Jews, thereby avoid persecution from the Romans. In any case, Paul instead stresses conformity with the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ; cf. Gal 2:19–21; 5:11.
* [6:17] The marks of Jesus: slaves were often branded by marks (stigmata) burned into their flesh to show to whom they belonged; so also were devotees of pagan gods. Paul implies that instead of outdated circumcision, his body bears the scars of his apostolic labors (2 Cor 11:22–31), such as floggings (Acts 16:22; 2 Cor 11:25) and stonings (Acts 14:19), that mark him as belonging to the Christ who suffered (cf. Rom 6:3; 2 Cor 4:10; Col 1:24) and will protect his own.

Of all the letters of Paul, that to the Christians at Rome has long held pride of place. It is the longest and most systematic unfolding of the apostle’s thought, expounding the gospel of God’s righteousness that saves all who believe (Rom 1:16–17); it reflects a universal outlook, with special implications for Israel’s relation to the church (Rom 9–11). Yet, like all Paul’s letters, Romans too arose out of a specific situation, when the apostle wrote from Greece, likely Corinth, between A.D. 56 and 58 (cf. Acts 20:2–3).
Paul at that time was about to leave for Jerusalem with a collection of funds for the impoverished Jewish Christian believers there, taken up from his predominantly Gentile congregations (Rom 15:25–27). He planned then to travel on to Rome and to enlist support there for a mission to Spain (Rom 15:24, 28). Such a journey had long been on his mind (Rom 1:9–13; 15:23). Now, with much missionary preaching successfully accomplished in the East (Rom 15:19), he sought new opportunities in the West (Rom 15:20–21), in order to complete the divine plan of evangelization in the Roman world. Yet he recognized that the visit to Jerusalem would be hazardous (Rom 15:30–32), and we know from Acts that Paul was arrested there and came to Rome only in chains, as a prisoner (Acts 21–28, especially Acts 21:30–33 and Acts 28:14, 30–31).
The existence of a Christian community in Rome antedates Paul’s letter there. When it arose, likely within the sizable Jewish population at Rome, and how, we do not know. The Roman historian Suetonius mentions an edict of the Emperor Claudius about A.D. 49 ordering the expulsion of Jews from Rome in connection with a certain “Chrestus,” probably involving a dispute in the Jewish community over Jesus as the Messiah (“Christus”). According to Acts 18:2, Aquila and Priscilla (or Prisca, as in Rom 16:3) were among those driven out; from them, in Corinth, Paul may have learned about conditions in the church at Rome.
Opinions vary as to whether Jewish or Gentile Christians predominated in the house churches (cf. Rom 16:5) in the capital city of the empire at the time Paul wrote. Perhaps already by then Gentile Christians were in the majority. Paul speaks in Romans of both Jews and Gentiles (Rom 3:9, 29; see note on Rom 1:14). The letter also refers to those “weak in faith” (Rom 14:1) and those “who are strong” (Rom 15:1); this terminology may reflect not so much differences between believers of Jewish and of Gentile background, respectively, as an ascetic tendency in some converts (Rom 14:2) combined with Jewish laws about clean and unclean foods (Rom 14:14, 20). The issues were similar to problems that Paul had faced in Corinth (1 Cor 8). If Rom 16 is part of the letter to Rome (see note on Rom 16:1–23), then Paul had considerable information about conditions in Rome through all these people there whom he knew, and our letter does not just reflect a generalized picture of an earlier situation in Corinth.
In any case, Paul writes to introduce himself and his message to the Christians at Rome, seeking to enlist their support for the proposed mission to Spain. He therefore employs formulations likely familiar to the Christians at Rome; see note on the confessional material at Rom 1:3–4 and compare Rom 3:25–26; 4:25. He cites the Old Testament frequently (Rom 1:17; 3:10–18; 4; 9:7, 12–13, 15, 17, 25–29, 33; 10:5–13, 15–21; 15:9–12). The gospel Paul presents is meant to be a familiar one to those in Rome, even though they heard it first from other preachers.
As the outline below shows, this gospel of Paul (see Rom 16:25) finds its center in salvation and justification through faith in Christ (Rom 1:16–17). While God’s wrath is revealed against all sin and wickedness of Gentile and Jew alike (Rom 1:18–3:20), God’s power to save by divine righteous or justifying action in Christ is also revealed (Rom 1:16–17; 3:21–5:21). The consequences and implications for those who believe are set forth (Rom 6:1–8:39), as are results for those in Israel (Rom 9–11) who, to Paul’s great sorrow (Rom 9:1–5), disbelieve. The apostle’s hope is that, just as rejection of the gospel by some in Israel has led to a ministry of salvation for non-Jews, so one day, in God’s mercy, “all Israel” will be saved (Rom 11:11–15, 25–29, 30–32). The fuller ethical response of believers is also drawn out, both with reference to life in Christ’s body (Rom 12) and with regard to the world (Rom 13:1–7), on the basis of the eschatological situation (Rom 13:11–14) and conditions in the community (Rom 14:1–15:13).
Others have viewed Romans more in the light of Paul’s earlier, quite polemical Letter to the Galatians and so see the theme as the relationship between Judaism and Christianity, a topic judged to be much in the minds of the Roman Christians. Each of these religious faiths claimed to be the way of salvation based upon a covenant between God and a people chosen and made the beneficiary of divine gifts. But Christianity regarded itself as the prophetic development and fulfillment of the faith of the Old Testament, declaring that the preparatory Mosaic covenant must now give way to the new and more perfect covenant in Jesus Christ. Paul himself had been the implacable advocate of freedom of Gentiles from the laws of the Mosaic covenant and, especially in Galatia, had refused to allow attempts to impose them on Gentile converts to the gospel. He had witnessed the personal hostilities that developed between the adherents of the two faiths and had written his strongly worded Letter to the Galatians against those Jewish Christians who were seeking to persuade Gentile Christians to adopt the religious practices of Judaism. For him, the purity of the religious understanding of Jesus as the source of salvation would be seriously impaired if Gentile Christians were obligated to amalgamate the two religious faiths.
Still others find the theme of Israel and the church as expressed in Rom 9–11 to be the heart of Romans. Then the implication of Paul’s exposition of justification by faith rather than by means of law is that the divine plan of salvation works itself out on a broad theological plane to include the whole of humanity, despite the differences in the content of the given religious system to which a human culture is heir. Romans presents a plan of salvation stretching from Adam through Abraham and Moses to Christ (Rom 4; 5) and on to the future revelation at Christ’s parousia (Rom 8:18–25). Its outlook is universal.
Paul’s Letter to the Romans is a powerful exposition of the doctrine of the supremacy of Christ and of faith in Christ as the source of salvation. It is an implicit plea to the Christians at Rome, and to all Christians, to hold fast to that faith. They are to resist any pressure put on them to accept a doctrine of salvation through works of the law (see note on Rom 10:4). At the same time they are not to exaggerate Christian freedom as an abdication of responsibility for others (Rom 12:1–2) or as a repudiation of God’s law and will (see Rom 3:9–26; 3:31; 7:7–12, 13–25).
The Duties of Christian (12:1-15:13)
Patience and Self-Denial.
We who are strong ought to put up with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves;a
let each of us please our neighbor for the good, for building up.b
For Christ did not please himself; but, as it is written,c “The insults of those who insult you fall upon me.”*
For whatever was written previously was written for our instruction, that by endurance and by the encouragement of the scriptures we might have hope.d
May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to think in harmony* with one another, in keeping with Christ Jesus,e
that with one accord you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

God’s Fidelity and Mercy.*
Welcome one another, then, as Christ welcomed you, for the glory of God.f
For I say that Christ became a minister of the circumcised to show God’s truthfulness, to confirm the promises to the patriarchs,g
but so that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:
“Therefore, I will praise you among the Gentiles
and sing praises to your name.”h
And again it says:i
“Rejoice, O Gentiles, with his people.”*
And again:
“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles,
and let all the peoples praise him.”j
And again Isaiah says:
“The root of Jesse shall come,
raised up to rule the Gentiles;
in him shall the Gentiles hope.”k

May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you may abound in hope by the power of the holy Spirit.l
Apostle to the Gentiles.
* I myself am convinced about you, my brothers, that you yourselves are full of goodness,* filled with all knowledge, and able to admonish one another.
But I have written to you rather boldly in some respects to remind you, because of the grace given me by Godm
to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in performing the priestly service of the gospel of God, so that the offering up of the Gentiles may be acceptable, sanctified by the holy Spirit.n
In Christ Jesus, then, I have reason to boast in what pertains to God.
For I will not dare to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to lead the Gentiles to obedience by word and deed,o
by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit [of God], so that from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum* I have finished preaching the gospel of Christ.
Thus I aspire* to proclaim the gospel not where Christ has already been named, so that I do not build on another’s foundation,p
but as it is written:q
“Those who have never been told of him shall see,
and those who have never heard of him shall understand.”*
Paul’s Plans; Need for Prayers.
That is why I have so often been prevented from coming to you.
But now, since I no longer have any opportunity in these regions and since I have desired to come to you for many years,r
I hope to see you in passing as I go to Spain and to be sent on my way there by you, after I have enjoyed being with you for a time.s
* Now, however, I am going to Jerusalem to minister to the holy ones.t
For Macedonia and Achaia* have decided to make some contribution for the poor among the holy ones in Jerusalem;u
they decided to do it, and in fact they are indebted to them, for if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual blessings, they ought also to serve them in material blessings.v
So when I have completed this and safely handed over this contribution to them, I shall set out by way of you to Spain;
and I know that in coming to you I shall come in the fullness of Christ’s blessing.
I urge you, [brothers,] by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to join me in the struggle by your prayers to God on my behalf,w
that I may be delivered from the disobedient in Judea, and that my ministry for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the holy ones,
so that I may come to you with joy by the will of God and be refreshed together with you.
The God of peace be with all of you. Amen.x

* [15:3] Liberation from the law of Moses does not make the scriptures of the old covenant irrelevant. Much consolation and motivation for Christian living can be derived from the Old Testament, as in the citation from Ps 69:10. Because this psalm is quoted several times in the New Testament, it has been called indirectly messianic.
* [15:5] Think in harmony: a Greco-Roman ideal. Not rigid uniformity of thought and expression but thoughtful consideration of other people’s views finds expression here.
* [15:7–13] True oneness of mind is found in pondering the ultimate mission of the church: to bring it about that God’s name be glorified throughout the world and that Jesus Christ be universally recognized as God’s gift to all humanity. Paul here prepares his addressees for the climactic appeal he is about to make.
* [15:14–33] Paul sees himself as apostle and benefactor in the priestly service of the gospel and so sketches plans for a mission in Spain, supported by those in Rome.
* [15:14] Full of goodness: the opposite of what humanity was filled with according to Rom 1:29–30.
* [15:20] I aspire: Paul uses terminology customarily applied to philanthropists. Unlike some philanthropists of his time, Paul does not engage in cheap competition for public acclaim. This explanation of his missionary policy is to assure the Christians in Rome that he is also not planning to remain in that city and build on other people’s foundations (cf. 2 Cor 10:12–18). However, he does solicit their help in sending him on his way to Spain, which was considered the limit of the western world. Thus Paul’s addressees realize that evangelization may be understood in the broader sense of mission or, as in Rom 1:15, of instruction within the Christian community that derives from the gospel.
* [15:25–27] Paul may have viewed the contribution he was gathering from Gentile Christians for the poor in Jerusalem (cf. 2 Cor 8–9) as a fulfillment of the vision of Is 60:5–6. In confidence that the messianic fulfillment was taking place, Paul stresses in Rom 14–16 the importance of harmonious relationships between Jews and Gentiles.

Paul’s letter to the Christians at Philippi was written while he was in a prison somewhere (Phil 1:7, 13, 14, 17), indeed in danger of death (Phil 1:20–23). Although under guard for preaching Christ, Paul rejoices at the continuing progress of the gospel (Phil 1:12–26) and expresses gratitude for the Philippians’ renewed concern and help in an expression of thanks most clearly found at Phil 4:10–20. Much of the letter is devoted to instruction about unity and humility within the Christian community at Philippi (Phil 1:27–2:18) and exhortations to growth, joy, and peace in their life together (Phil 4:1–9). The letter seems to be drawing to a close at the end of what we number as Phil 2, as Paul reports the plans of his helper Timothy and of Epaphroditus (whom the Philippians had sent to aid Paul) to come to Philippi (Phil 2:19–3:1), and even Paul’s own expectation that he will go free and come to Philippi (Phil 1:25–26; 2:24). Yet quite abruptly at Phil 3:2, Paul erupts into warnings against false teachers who threaten to impose on the Philippians the burdens of the Mosaic law, including circumcision. The section that follows, Phil 3:2–21, is a vigorous attack on these Judaizers (cf. Gal 2:11–3:29) or Jewish Christian teachers (cf. 2 Cor 11:12–23), giving us insights into Paul’s own life story (Phil 3:4–6) and into the doctrine of justification, the Christian life, and ultimate hope (Phil 3:7–21).
* [3:2–11] Paul sets forth the Christian claim, especially using personal, autobiographical terms that are appropriate to the situation. He presents his own experience in coming to know Christ Jesus in terms of righteousness or justification (cf. Rom 1:16–17; 3:21–5:11; Gal 2:5–11), contrasting the righteousness from God through faith and that of one’s own based on the law as two exclusive ways of pleasing God.
* [3:2] Beware of the mutilation: literally, “incision,” an ironic wordplay on “circumcision”; cf. Gal 5:12. There may be an association with the self-inflicted mutilations of the prophets of Baal (1 Kgs 18:28) and of devotees of Cybele who slashed themselves in religious frenzy.
* [3:7] Loss: his knowledge of Christ led Paul to reassess the ways of truly pleasing and serving God. His reevaluation indicates the profound and lasting effect of his experience of the meaning of Christ on the way to Damascus some twenty years before (Gal 1:15–16; Acts 9:1–22).
* [3:12–16] To be taken possession of by Christ does not mean that one has already arrived at perfect spiritual maturity. Paul and the Philippians instead press on, trusting in God.
* [3:17] Being imitators of me: not arrogance, but humble simplicity, since all his converts know that Paul is wholly dedicated to imitating Christ (1 Cor 11:1; cf. also Phil 4:9; 1 Thes 1:6; 2 Thes 3:7, 9; 1 Cor 4:6).
Give my greetings to every holy one in Christ Jesus. The brothers who are with me send you their greetings;
o all the holy ones send you their greetings, especially those of Caesar’s household.*
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.

Please we do not need to fight with each other. The Catholic love Christ so much. And I will continuously Love all of Christ. We are created in the likeness and image of God. Christ loves us. Let us not let our differences an obstacle of peace and love and mercy. Brother, I want you to know that we are not your enemies. We are part of one family. Let us not hurl insults and vanity. We are to love our fellow. If you were offended by this Love, i humbly ask you to have mercy.
The Catholics love for God and neighbors will still continue flowing and we shall continuously serve the Lord. Brother, you are not forced to accept us. You may not register us, it is your will. However, by what you have said, let us be merciful, be ever filled with grace, live not in sin that leads to death, and be holy. You can pop your bubble also. I'm happy that you have zealous faith, continue that. You are always welcome to the Catholic Church, you can listen and hear our mass, and read the life of saints and catechism. Still you may not, if that makes you angry. It needs an open heart. Dick, i invite you, there is faith, hope, love and graces found in this Church. Believe. The Catholic Church is always, waiting patiently and believing that we can be united.

May God bless you Dick.
May the Peace and goodness of Christ be with us always.

May 30, 2014 at 8:34 am PST
#158  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Why would I want to do that when the Storm come and the wind blows and the floods crash you will fall according to your own " prophesy of Father Malachi Martin" a Jesuit Priest who predicted 800 yrs. age that The enthronement of the fallen Archangel Lucifer was effected within the Roman Catholic Citadel on June 29 1973; a fitting date for the historic promise about to be fulfilled. As the principal agents of this ceremorial well Know. Satanist tradition had long predicted that the time of the prince would be ushered in at a moment when a Pope would take the Name of the apostle Paul ( Pope Paul VI ). That requirement- the signal that the Availing time had begun- had be accomplished just eight days before with the Election of the latest in line. Prophetic count down to the present Pope is a collapse of the Catholic faith and the Vatican. then the Anti Christ will make an appearance. One of the Hallmark of the Jesuits is a vow of Humility; never to be chosen the a higher position. Pope Francis ignored this Vow.

June 1, 2014 at 12:00 pm PST
#159  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

You are more a declaration here of hatred and unloving. You are an unreasonable man. What have i tell you Dick... I'm amazed that now you have chosen to be the untrusted and the unblibical. You are closest to be the deceiver and false witness.
It saddens my heart ,of how prideful, profane and disbeliever you are Dick.
I thought i can trust you and love and believe with you. So go hurl more insults if that's what you are, tell more lies Dick, go and kill that is what you are. You are not the first, who hated the Holy Catholic Church. Now compete more of them, prideful and shallow-minded people.

Father Malachi is a good and holy person. Why does envious people bury and throw so many lies around him?
May God have mercy on his soul.
May His Soul rest in peace.

I wanted to write more how i am sad with what you made. But this is sadness is enough.
To love you have bring forth your mercilessness and rudeness.

I have not invited you for this fallacies, and spites. But I have invited you because out of Love and for Loving. i thought we can follow a path of holiness. I thought you post scripture, was passion and faith was it was truly. Yet, you have not love and peace.

"If you don't have the highest reverence for the priesthood and for the religious state, you certainly don't love God's Church"- St. Josemaria Escriva.

May God bless you Dick, so that the darkness revolving and occupying within your heart, mind ,and eyes -be vanished and be replaced completely with the true light of Grace, Peace, Love and Mercy.

May the God of Hope, lead our life doing His will.
Jesus Christ,the Head and His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, His Body, lead us into all truth.

Goodbye and live a holy and truthful life.

June 2, 2014 at 8:00 am PST
#160  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Malachi was a GOOD and HOLY person. His prophesy was a Good and Holy thing. The envious people who bury and throw LIES at him are the Catholics who reject His prophesies. If he is Good and holy why pray mercy and that he would rest in peace; He has Mercy and rest already. May God Bless me also? Read the 1st. chapter of Ephesians and see God Blessed Me before the foundation of the World. God is all knowing and sees the END before the beginning.

June 5, 2014 at 9:45 am PST
#161  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Malachi 1:11 "For from the rising of the sun, even to its setting, my name is great among the nations; And everywhere they bring sacrifice to my name, and a pure offering; For great is my name among the nations, says the LORD of hosts."

Sounds like the One, Holy, & Apostolic Church upholds this prophesy.

June 5, 2014 at 3:12 pm PST
#162  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Sounds like my Church, One, Holy, Apostolic. About upholding THIS prophesy: For more than 800 yrs. Catholic and Evangelical scholars have pointed to the dark augury having to do with the "Last Pope". The prophecy taken from St. Malachy's " Prophesy of the Popes" is among a list of verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope," Peter the Roman", whose reign heralds the beginning of the " Great Apostasy" followed by "great tribulation". According to this prophesy, which was hidden away in the Vatican for hundreds of yrs. The next pope following Pope benedict XV1 will be the false prophet who leads the World's religious communities into embracing the political leader known as the AntiChrist. Unfortunately, we will learn, time for avoiding Peter the Roman just ran out. This is a Catholic Prophesy.

June 6, 2014 at 9:44 am PST
#163  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Sounds like you have been watching the discovery channel to much.

June 6, 2014 at 12:20 pm PST
#164  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

You wish that's what it is but you need to read it for yourself. " The final pope is here. Petrus Romanus". By Thomas Horn and Chris Putnam.

June 9, 2014 at 7:29 am PST
#165  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

I'm so glad you say that, it exposes the nonsense you believe. I guess your going to predict the end of the world next, or maybe next years Super Bowl champs. How dissapointed will you be when the next pope after Francis is elected?

June 9, 2014 at 3:11 pm PST
#166  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

This is not my prediction. This is a prophesy by a Jesuit Priest, Father Malachi Martin 800 yrs. ago.

June 10, 2014 at 8:11 am PST
#167  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

It is not your prediction but you are just as guilty for believing it and trying to use it to scorn the Catholic Church. Fr. Malachi was a priest, he was an individual who does not represent the whole Church. This is what is great about being a Catholic, not one person = the magisterium. Just like Judas did not lesson the other apostles. I guess all you can do is sling anything you can in desperation to cover your bogus lies. How pathetic. You should be ashamed and sadened by such an uncharitable act.

June 10, 2014 at 4:11 pm PST
#168  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Prophesy's power is in it's fulfillment.
1 Corinthians 12:4-11
There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills. Prophesy is one of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. Gifts given to man to believe. Thousands of Prophecies have been given and fulfilled over the ages. There are false prophets out there also. Born again people can receive the Holy Spirit and His Gifts. Those who are not can't receive. You should be ashamed and condemned for rejecting what I've been trying to share with you; the infallible Word of God. I guess all you can do is to add lies upon lies to cover up the previous ones. Just one truth uncovers all deception. I follow One Man ,Who says He will Lead Me to all Truth. You follow One man ( The Pope) and you get into all kinds of error. The Catechism is full of it. And the Christian World agrees ..

June 11, 2014 at 7:06 am PST
#169  Martin Dian - Miami, Florida

Matthew 16:19: "And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven".
The pope binds and loosens, and it is ratified by God! Like it or not!

June 13, 2014 at 8:43 am PST
#170  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

As long as it does not contradict Scripture.
2 Timothy 3:14-17
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them,
and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Peter 1:2-4
Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord,
as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue,
by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. God has given us the scriptures so we can live a Holy and righteous life. We can see all the great and precious Promises. To be a partaker of his Divine Nature. He has given us ALL THINGS that pertain to LIFE and GODLINESS. The Pope has NO Authority because you have to be Born again to receive anything from God. And your daffynition don't line up with Scriptural (BORN AGAIN).

June 13, 2014 at 3:15 pm PST
#171  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Martin, You will see quickly that Dick misuses Scripture just as he did slinging 2 Timothy 3:14-17 out there. First of all, that verse was speaking of Old Testament Scripture because all New Testament Scripture was not even written yet. Secondly, not only was it not written, there would have to be someone to declare what was authentic Scripture and what was not. The Bible did not fall out of the sky complete with listed books and authors. Dick does not like it that the same Church that was given the authority to declare sacred Scripture for us (a binding desicion) also had the authority to teach faith and morals, the Gospel of Christ.

He says God gave us Scriptures so we could live a holy and righteous life, and I certainly agree with that. Of course he leaves out the fact that God gave us a Church to determine and to teach the meaning of those Scriptures.

He is very confused and will claim infallability and authority himself. He can not stand the Pope yet sets himself up as one. Go figure!!!

June 14, 2014 at 5:40 am PST
#172  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

You always show you ignorance in your comments. 2 Tim.3:14-17 & 2 Peter 1: 2-4 are New testament Subjects and are for those that Believe. How can New Testament Scripture Be if it's not written yet? Brilliant. duh. Scripture is proven by the person who wrote it and the time it was written. Are you able to give the satisfactory definition of FAITH and What is the Gospel? The original Church your referring to was BELEIVERS who met together in Locations and in Homes. The Church was not a building. The Catholic Church was more a Business or Government To Charge their followers money to exist and to keep control even after Death. ( Praying for the Dead and selling Passes to get into Heaven, and still do. He says --No-- God says He gave the scripture for Man to Read and understand. To bad you don't know how to read for yourself; you need someone to interpret for you. Can you comprehend :
1 Corinthians 2:13-14
These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Clearly this states if you are Born again the holy Spirit teaches you Spiritual Things such as Faith, Grace, And righteousness, if you are not born again you can only understand Natural things such as the sense realm. Read it yourself or do you have to run to your mentor who doesn't KNOW either. No need to bow and kiss my ring. The scriptures tell it like it is.

June 14, 2014 at 4:18 pm PST
#173  Martin Dian - Miami, Florida

I see what you are talking about Christopher!
Nevertheless, the verse mentioned above by Dick (2 Timothy 3:14) has reinforced my faith for it warns us to know FROM WHOM you learn from:"But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing FROM WHOM you have learned them" It's historically well documented that the Pope, FROM WHOM catholics learn, is the legitimate successor of Peter. So I have no problem with the Pope!
Most encyclopedias will show you a list of all the popes; here is a list of the first 10 popes:
1. Peter The Apostle
2. Linus
3. Anacletus
4. Clement
5. Aristus
6. Alexander
7. Xystus
8. Telesphorus
9. Hyginus
The last three popes being:
John Paul II
Benedict xvi and
Once again, 2 Timothy 3:14:
"But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing FROM WHOM you have learned them"; yes it would be wise to learn from the legitimate successor of Peter! Besides, it is impossible for the Pope to contradict The Word of God, since Jesus promised the gates of Hell SHALL NOT prevail against HIS church:"And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell SHALL NOT prevail against it".
I can only thank Jesus for protecting the church from false teachings! Blessed be God!

June 14, 2014 at 6:56 pm PST
#174  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, when St. Paul wrote his letter to Timothy he did not know his letter would be considered Scripture. That isn't ignorance, that is a historical fact. St. Paul was not even alive long enough to know there would be a Bible completed. The ONLY writing commanded by God in the New Testament is the book of Revelation. Where in The Bible is a list of what authors and what books make up the Bible? Since you want to call me ignorant and you act like you know it all, tell us where it is. I have no doubt you will avoid that question or you will make something up that is not historicaly true.

June 14, 2014 at 8:43 pm PST
#175  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Martin, most people who are rational could figure out what I was saying about 2 Timothy, the problem is, Dick is not a rational person as you will find out soon enough. He is under the impression that Scripture fell out of the sky complete. Your post was spot on and speaks of the truth!! You and me are grateful for these Popes you mentioned, these holy men of God, these beloved martyrs, while Dick despises them. God bless you, and I will pray for God to strengthen your great faith even more!!

June 14, 2014 at 8:54 pm PST
#176  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Most Encyclopedias you can look up or ask your Computer about the lists of illegitimate Popes who were in secession as infallible Popes and Had mistresses , Illegitimate children, even made their children Popes. They were murderers, Homosexuals, Made Church laws for their own benefits , Sold entrance passes into Heaven, Etc. I could go on and on. These men were anything but Holy or Saints. Look it up yourself.

June 16, 2014 at 4:42 pm PST
#177  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Glad you brought that up Dick. It shows you are not as familiar with Scripture as you thought you were. Those who are familiar with Scripture will know exactly what I mean, for you Dick, you might want to read up on some of God's beloved chosen leaders, you know the ones who might have had illegitimate children, commited adultery, murdered, disobeyed, denied Christ etc, etc...Gee, lets see, I wonder if Adam, Abraham, Moses, David, or Peter would pass Dick's test as being capable of performing Godly tasks?!!!!!!!!!!

And Dick, how bad is it when you rely on encyclopedias for your religious truths. You can use secular sources, for me and my household, we will serve the Lord by obeying the Church, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

You really have reached a new low Dick, and guess what??? I'm a sinner too!!! But guess what else, I love my Lord and I understand what you are missing when you make ignorant character attacks, perhaps the biggest message of ALL of Scripture, and the reason the Word became Flesh,....................

......................GOD'S MERCY IS GREATER THAN ANY SIN!!!............................

I will be praying for you and waiting on your next post. Hope you have a blessed day filled with Christ's peace and love.

June 16, 2014 at 8:16 pm PST
#178  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

I believe you referenced Encyclopedias on # 173 also. Since you put everything ahead of Scripture . My character attacks are not ignorant but truthful. All Old testament Characters were called Righteous in God's sight. Since Righteousness is not in the Catechism ; you would have no concept of it's meaning -so probably No Pope could claim to be . The Bible says "God doesn't hear the prayers of a sinner". So you claim to be a sinner and the wages of sin is Death. Bible also says that if you are " in Christ" you are Dead to Sin. Jesus went into the abyss and set the Old Testament captives Free. Could not be released until Jesus Died and rose to New Life. If you are Righteous you can be seated NOW by faith in heavenly places " In Christ Jesus". I can be very narrow minded because I'M RIGHT. The word of God says so, that settles it.

June 18, 2014 at 11:20 am PST
#179  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Your first error is that post #173 was not made by me. Your next error is saying I put everything before Scripture. That kind of ignorance doesn't deserve a reply, only God knows my heart, not you. Again, you err by thinking a righteous person can not fall to sin and get back up again. Example, St. Peter. He loved Christ dearly, so much that he quit his job, left his family for a while to follow Jesus everyday. He professed who Christ was, the Son of God, and he was there at every major event such as the many miracles, the comissioning of church and the transfiguration. He was much closer to Christ than you can ever dream of being, Christ even washed his feet and personaly taught him everything, he didn't just read Scripture like you Dick...he was part of it! You show your arrogance if you bellieve you are more righteous or understand Jesus more than Peter. And again, you show your ignorance of Scripture if you think for a second that Peter did not sin. Our Lord predicted his sin, told him about it beforehand, and he did it any way. He denied Christ not once, but three times, and he did so using profane laungage. Judas sinned also, but the difference is, Peter recognized he sinned and was forgiven by Christ and given a second chance. That's what a loving and just God does!

That leads me to this. I too love Christ, profess who He is, and give my life to Him completely, I am a new creation because of Christ, He has transformed my life in every way. But, just like Peter, I am human, and I am honest enough to say sometimes I sin, not on purpose, but because of my week human nature. Like Peter, I ask for forgivness and Christ forgives me.

Now then, does Jesus hear the prayers of sinners? I am living proof that He does and that He answers those prayers. Not only did He literally, not metaphorically, save the life of my wife and I, He changed our lives forever in a single night with one heck of a giant miracle. We went from a life of sin to a life of recognizing sin and caring about how we lived our lives. How does any sinner come to Christ without prayer? That is just absurd!

Nowhere in the history of Christianity do the people of God deny that they are sinners. Being able to admit you need a Savior is professing Christ rightly and with your heart, saying you don't need Christ any more because you are as holy as Him is a lie and a renouncement of Christ. St. John says it very well when he says this...

1 John 1:8 "If we say "We are without sin," we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

You deceive yourself Dick by not admitting you sin, and the truth is not in you. St. John goes on to say this also...

1 John 1:9 "If we acknowledge our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and forgives us from every wrong doing."

I acknowledge my sins and ask for forgiveness, just like St. John says to do so plainly. Why stop there when St. John still has more to say about sin...

1 John 1:10 "If we say "We have not sinned," we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

I know where I stand ( I acknowledge my sins and ask for forgivness). Being dead to sin is admitting them and wiping them out. That is the Word of God.

June 19, 2014 at 1:47 am PST
#180  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Romans 3:19-22
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. The 10 commandments were written on stone but now are written in our Hearts. From Moses to the present the Law is applicable to those who have not been Born again. and you will be judged by the Law. Those of US who are Born Again are not under the Law but under GRACE. You can't have it both ways. One or the Other. You don't realize that when Jesus died for your Sins they were erased from His remembrance; and He died for ALL -Past - present - future Sins. His death Justified us (just as if I'd never sinned. This is what Being Righteous Means. Jesus made my Spirit perfect, Holy, no spot or blemish, sealed and preserved. There is No condemnation in Christ Jesus.
Romans 6:6-11
knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.
For he who has died has been freed from sin.
Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Have you reckoned yourself YET. Yes We are dead to Sin. When Jesus died He did it in your place. He substituted Himself for us. We died to sin that day. If you have Died then you are FREE of sin. The Law and Sin accomplished it's purpose ; It lead us to Jesus. He is all you need.
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. Grace is more powerful than The law -Sin _and Death. Jesus came to fulfill the law. The Bible calls the 10 Commandments the Law of Death. 1st.John had more to say:
1 John 3:4-6
Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
1 John 3:8-9
He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
1 John 5:17-18
All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.
We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. It's impossible to please God without FAITH. Faith is speaking thing that Don't exist as though they Do. God did this at Creation and all thru the History of the World. Jesus did also. and He tells us to do the same. His way's are not your ways.

June 19, 2014 at 7:40 am PST
#181  david pruit - dallas, Texas

Just reading through some of these posts, something caught my eye Dick Martin posted in156: " I dare to burst your bubble; Jesus was not totally God when on the Earth". I have to ask what he meant there. Sounds like he is espousing the Arian heretical belief that Jesus was not always God... that's big time nono.

June 21, 2014 at 3:32 pm PST
#182  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

David, just about everything Dick says is random and a lie. Do not be suprised by anything he says or believes. He is not a man of reason but a man of treason against Christ's Church and the Body of Christ. Now he will throw Scripture at you just like Satan did at Jesus, incomplete and deceitful.

June 21, 2014 at 8:58 pm PST
#183  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

David: I was just quoting scripture.
Philippians 2:5-8 Look this up.
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Look up the Greek word ( Konosis ) Meaning Jesus Emptied Himself Of retaining and exploiting His status in the Godhead and taking on Himself humanity in order to die.
The Scriptures say that Jesus was tempted in all ways as we are ,yet without sin. God in His Nature can not be tempted. Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit and received power to go about Healing all who were oppressed of the devil. He could not do any miracles only what the Father did thru Him. Jesus said what you see me doing; it's the Father that is doing them. Why did Jesus Pray a lot to receive from the Father. Jesus was asked by the apostles when will the End come ? Jesus didn't know; He said only the Father knows. Jesus was always God; But God in the flesh. he gave up His Godly Attributes. He went to school and studied the Old testament scriptures before He started his ministry. He was not all knowing, or be in more than one place at a time. He was not all powerful except what the Father did through the Holy spirit. Chris: You should have a bad conscience for saying that God's word is random and a lie. I told you things that Christians know but the catechism does not cover. So when I share with you God's word you have to get nasty. The Word of God will always seem incomplete and deceptive to those who are not lead by the Holy Spirit. It's obvious.1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. God will bring all this to your remembrance at your Judgment. There will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

June 22, 2014 at 11:42 am PST
#184  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

I said what YOU say is random and a lie Dick, not the Word of God. You misuse the Word of God against Christ's Church and anyone who doesnt agree with your theology. I'm not getting nasty just being honest, because to lie is a sin. You err in a terible way if you think you have the Holy Spirit and Catholics do not. I wish you peace but I can not agree with the things you say.

June 22, 2014 at 12:16 pm PST
#185  david pruit - dallas, Texas

Mr Dick, I see that Christopher was right in that you use random scriptures to support your unguided beliefs, for truly what you just proposed is false doctrine and a dangerous way of thought, if you truly say what it sounds like you're saying. For by saying Christ emptied himself of his divine nature at any point is false. He is both fully God, and fully human, and this is the affirmed belief of Christianity through the ages. You ref. Phil 5:2-8 but neglect Heb 10:5-7, but leave out the many others such as 1 Jn 4:2,9; 1:1-2; John 1:1-18, 6:63; etc. The bottom line is Christ has always been and always will be fully God. To deny this is to deny one of the most fundamental tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you forget that Christ is the Word? Through him all was made, and without him there is nothing? Can you deny the miracle of the incarnation in which the Word became flash and dwelt among men? Can you deny That he, being both fully God and fully man, could take on the veil of flesh and experience humanity in a perfect way, since it's through him man came to be? How then could he not choose to fully take on that flesh, yet never lose the fullness of his eternal divinity?
You're in dangerous territory Dick. In your effort to determine truth under the guise of being "Spirit led" you sometime, albeit well intended, fall into dangerously false and in some cases (this one) seemimgly heretical beliefs. If for some reason you were not claiming these things and I just misunderstood you I'm sorry please clarify further.

to add a bit more clarification, read John 10:22-42.

June 23, 2014 at 5:11 am PST
#186  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Philippians 2:5-8
Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,
but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men;
and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient even unto death, yea, the death of the cross. This is the Word of GOD. He never changes He the same Yesterday, Today, and forever. Chris: You say this is Random and a Lie. I just quoted God to you; you've got a problem and it's not with me. David: Unguided beliefs and false doctrine ; Shame on you. I said in my # 183 that Jesus was always God but He Set aside or Emptied Himself to be able to fulfill scripture and to have the ability to Die on our behalf. The Scripture tells us exactly what was needed. You say it False. WOOOO. Read the Gospels and notice how many times Jesus did things not in His own strength but through the Father and the Power of the Holy Spirit. You definitely Misunderstood Me. Your forgiven.

June 24, 2014 at 7:20 am PST
#187  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, I am not the problem. The Word of God is the "meaning" behind what God says, not the text. There is but one absolute truth and just because you can quote Scripture does not mean you are putting God's Word in the proper context. This is why the Bible alone can not ever be the sole authority, there must be an interpreter, and the mission of interpreting and spreading the Gospel of Christ to the entire world was given to the Church founded by Christ. The thousands upon thousands of denominations are a result of such fallacy as yours, they ALL believe they are right and the others are wrong. The proof is in the pudding and the reality can not be covered up or explained away, it is what it is. I already know you are going to say "born again" are the church and the to get it right, and there we go again, your definition and mine of "born again" differ, so round and round we go. The Holy Spirit dwells in me also.

June 26, 2014 at 3:31 am PST
#188  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Let the Word of God speak for it's self.
1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. -- Self explanatory.
John 5:39
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. --Self explanatory.
Hebrews 4:12-13
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Self explanatory.
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Only to the unlearned; They need Interpretation.
2 Timothy 3:15-17
and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. ( even children can understand).
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. The MAN of God is all who have received truth.
Acts 20:32
“So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. The children receive Inheritances From the Last will of Him who Died.
John 20:31
but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. Believing is how you receive. Believing what you can comprehend. Babies can't comprehend.
Colossians 3:16
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. The Word dwells in us and teaches us and prompts us to follow thru. The Church Has and will continue to fail. It's history proves it. The Church also adds more Non- scripture to their Catechism. Self - explanatory.

June 26, 2014 at 8:05 am PST
#189  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

The Catholic Church is apostolic. Apostolic in origin, in witness, and in mission.
This is fundamentally lacking to all denominations. Martin's heretical and schimatic act was already debunked before he knew and was born.
You Dick follow the heretical and schimatic teaching.

How can the word dwell in you? That is not right possible, if that is only by claim and not commission by an apostolic successor. How did word can teach you? Because you cannot hear, you did not follow the apostolic tradition that is only within the Church word both by mouth and by letter. How did it prompts you to follow thru? If your faith is dead and you have no faith is Jesus Church. Dick yourself is a contradiction of the Scripture. You can never hide in the lines and words of God. That is self-explanatory

June 30, 2014 at 9:03 pm PST
#190  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Ged - How can your blog be self explanatory when you have a hard time creating sentences? The true Church is made up of individuals Who are BORN AGAIN. God deals with People," one on one". When your born again the Holy Spirit dwells in your spirit and they become one. You receive a New Nature; not a recreated one but a brand-new nature; one that has never existed before. To be Apostolic, Witness, and mission driven you must be connected to the one who Gives Life. Catholics think you are Born Again when your baptized as a 3 month old Baby. Each individual has to comprehend the Word to receive. The church can't do it for you. No one can take your place. you will be judge for your own response. If your not born again you are cut off from God and can't pass on any thing to another(successor". The Church by their own definition can't be what is Apostolic , witnessing and missions.

July 1, 2014 at 7:59 am PST
#191  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Still you are heretical and schismatic.
You are wrong. Your understanding of born again is unscriptural. How? By faith alone? By bible alone?

Just stick with your faith without works is dead notion. And stick with use of bible against the One Church of Jesus. That is self explanatory

July 1, 2014 at 10:15 pm PST
#192  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Ged; I am happy to be called a heretic and one who has split from the largest non Christian CUTL in the history of Humanity. I am glad to have seen thru this before I received credit in my account for Righteousness. Basic Signs of any Cult are Denying the Bible and replacing it with another Higher authority as you've stated in blog #191. Cults also teach a different way to Heaven; by your own works or any % added to Jesus finished sacrifice. Cult follow after the Ideas of Man. They also deny the basic tenants of the Christian faith. they Don't believe there is a difference between Salvation and Baptism. Confessing your sins does not cleans you of your sins. Confessing you are a SINNER and applying Jesus death to your dead spirit will get you in to Heaven. Confessing means you agree with. Quote: " that who so ever believe in Jesus shall have everlasting LIFE." Have you done this? Wide is the path to destruction, there are many on that path. You had better read the Street Sign at the next cross-road.

July 2, 2014 at 1:26 pm PST
#193  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Ged; I am happy to be called a heretic and one who has split from the largest non Christian CULT in the history of Humanity. I am glad to have seen thru this before I received credit in my account for Righteousness. Basic Signs of any Cult are Denying the Bible and replacing it with another Higher authority as you've stated in blog #191. Cults also teach a different way to Heaven; by your own works or any % added to Jesus' finished sacrifice. Cults follow after the Ideas of Man. They also deny the basic tenants of the Christian faith. they Don't believe there is a difference between Salvation and Baptism. Confessing your sins does not cleanse you of your sins. Confessing you are a SINNER and applying Jesus' death to your dead spirit will get you in to Heaven. Confessing means you agree with. Quote: " that who so ever believe in Jesus shall have everlasting LIFE." Have you done this? Wide is the path to destruction, there are many on that path. You had better read the Street Sign at the next cross-road.

July 2, 2014 at 1:37 pm PST
#194  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, you are very offensive and do not act in the Spirit of Christ. To say Catholics are non Christians, and a cult, just shows your vial arrogance and your ignorance. I for one am glad this kind of behavior comes out of you so it shows who you really are. You make no sense at all! On one hand you say all we have to do is believe in Christ to be saved, then on the other hand you condenm us all even though we believe in Christ. Which is it?¿ Is it believe in Christ + conditions?

July 2, 2014 at 9:06 pm PST
#195  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Lazy Dick, do not know how to apply the cross in his life. I will say it again, faith without works is dead. And use of bible against the one Church of Jesus is unscriptural. It all boils down to you Dick, being a heretic and schismatic. -Self explanatory

July 2, 2014 at 9:14 pm PST
#196  Dick Martin - Frazeysburg, Ohio

Chris; It seems Offensive to those who deny the authority of the Bible and it's plain and simple truth of the plan of Salvation. When Jesus said He is the way and only thru Him is Salvation acquired. When He suffered and Died for your sins. Then it's a done deal. The bible states that ALL your sins were paid for. You have access into the very throne room of God. You need no Priest as a go between. You can talk to God directly. Our newly redeemed spirit has the spirit of God living in us and where there is Light no darkness can live. We are Redeemed from the curse of the Law. There is NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. It's Jesus only; No +++'s or ----'s. His work satisfied the Father completely. If you are counting on you efforts to save you,it is a waste of time and effort. God say's your salvation is accounted to you for Righteousness. Ged; What is a heretic and schismatic ? it's one who turns his back on the scriptures and believes some thing opposite. The one Church of Jesus is those who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. Thomas Aquinas said that " Nothing false can underlie the literal sense of Scripture"; If there is one falsehood in the bible it did not come from the God of Truth. (Summa Theologica, I, 1, 10, ad 3. The Catholics have many man made Ideas in their history that contradict the word of God's Truth.

July 3, 2014 at 8:12 am PST
#197  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

St. Thomas (II-II:11:1) defines heresy: "a species of infidelity in men who, having professed the faith of Christ, corrupt its dogmas". "The right Christian faith consists in giving one's voluntary assent to Christ in all that truly belongs to His teaching. There are, therefore, two ways of deviating from Christianity: the one by refusing to believe in Christ Himself, which is the way of infidelity, common to Pagans and Jews; the other by restricting belief to certain points of Christ's doctrine selected and fashioned at pleasure, which is the way of heretics. The subject-matter of both faith and heresy is, therefore, the deposit of the faith, that is, the sum total of truths revealed in Scripture and Tradition as proposed to our belief by the Church. The believer accepts the whole deposit as proposed by the Church; the heretic accepts only such parts of it as commend themselves to his own approval.

July 3, 2014 at 6:10 pm PST
#198  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Dick just sit there, RELAX (Your saved, right?), eat and sleep (You're not required to do any work, right? Or i guess, tell more of your erroneous judgment). We will do all the charity and truth. We will do all what Christ, Our Lord God and Savior, commanded us. And we will stay in His One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

James 1:2-4
Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you encounter various trials,*for you know that the testing* of your faith produces perseverance.And let perseverance be perfect, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

James 1:23-24
For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his own face in a mirror.He sees himself, then goes off and promptly forgets what he looked like.[image and likeness of God]

James 1:27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows* in their affliction and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

July 3, 2014 at 6:32 pm PST
#199  Ged Narvaez - Daraga, Albay

Catholic Church -Word of God
Bible- Catholic Church-based
Scripture and Tradition

"I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2).

"Follow the pattern of the sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus; guard the truth that has been entrusted to you by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us" (2 Tim. 1:13-14).

"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter." (2 Thess. 2:15)

"You, then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus, and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also" (2 Tim. 2:1-2).

"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God" (2 Peter 1:20-21).

"‘Though I have much to write to you, I would rather not use paper and ink, but I hope to come to see you and talk with you face to face, so that our joy may be complete" (2 John 12). ?

July 3, 2014 at 6:34 pm PST
#200  Christopher Travis - Huntsville, Alabama

Dick, you are offensive, plain and simple. You have no credibility here, it is shot after the mean and offensive things you have said. You must have some kind of defficiancy with your ego.

July 3, 2014 at 9:51 pm PST

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